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OfflineAnonymousNewbie
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50/50+ or Straight Verm?
    #3317359 - 11/04/04 06:37 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

If my buddy runs outta 50/50+ and doesn't feel like mixing and testing pH anymore, can he use just straight verm as the casing layers? He knows it has been done plenty of times - although if the straight verm casings are gonna be noticeably worse than the 50/50+ casings, he will get off his lazy ass and mix up some more 50/50... Like what are the "side-effects" of using straight verm for casing layers, and what should he do?


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: AnonymousNewbie]
    #3317367 - 11/04/04 06:39 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

straight verm works...just get it moist...nuke for 5 min (stir at 2.5min) then cool and case!


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: dobinky]
    #3317383 - 11/04/04 06:40 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

It works, but I think your friend should get off his "lazy ass"  :smile:


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: RootedGrowth]
    #3317400 - 11/04/04 06:42 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

DOES IT WORK AS WELL AS 50/50, he knows it works. However since the layers are non-nutritional - what is the difference.


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: AnonymousNewbie]
    #3317424 - 11/04/04 06:45 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

not as well...diff in texture and the way myc can eat it up...not literally but you know what i mean...i think...


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: dobinky]
    #3317553 - 11/04/04 07:09 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

He doesn't know anything besides he's seen pictures. Will it effect yeild?


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: AnonymousNewbie]
    #3317574 - 11/04/04 07:13 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Damn man, chill out.

Obviously the yield may not be as good. And, *I think* he meant the he thinks you understand what he means...i think...


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3318388 - 11/04/04 10:58 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

No it doesn't work as well or people would just use the easier thing. Theres a reason 50/50+ is prefered even though its one of the most difficult casing mixes to mix up. Straight verm is blah IME.


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3318413 - 11/04/04 11:11 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

strait verm is hard to tell water content.


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #3318479 - 11/04/04 11:35 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

It's worth the time to make the 50/50.


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3318995 - 11/04/04 05:53 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

50/50+ :thumbup:


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: george castanza]
    #3319180 - 11/04/04 06:50 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

If you are willing to wait around, for spores to germinate, mycelium to colonize and casings to be made, (talking dozens of days)whats the big deal with soaking some coir and mixing a proper casing?

I know we are all a little lazy and want things faster and easier. But long story short, fast and easy sometimes means poor performance.

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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: call_me_kido]
    #3319218 - 11/04/04 06:58 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

50/50+ all the way.

i do 60/40 if i'm lazy and don't ph, but there's a noticable difference when i take the time.


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Re: 50/50+ or Straight Verm? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3319557 - 11/04/04 08:49 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

50/50+ all the way

loves me some 50/50+


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