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Offlinegribochek
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Me and you
    #331735 - 06/01/01 03:34 PM (22 years, 7 hours ago)

We are free.

Free to love and to hurt
Free to know and to forget
Free to leave and to stay

We are free

Free to have our own delusions
Free to live our own lives
Free to play jokes on ourselves

We are free

Free to restrict our freedom
Free to forget our abilities
Free to wish away our knowledge.

I can do to you anything I want
You can do to me anything you want
You want to know how that can be?
Thus: me and you are simply one.

When you forget you are me, you become afraid of me.
But how can you be afraid of me if you know I am you?

When you forget you are me, you want to change me.
But whom will you want to change if you know I am you?

When you forget you are me,
you want to become like me
you want to run away from me
you want to understand me
you want to control me
If you could, you would die of laughter
When you find out that I am you.

But where is the proof, you ask.
But how can I, you ask,
Join you in this perfect world of oneness?
Read your question again.
Read it again.
Read it again.
Do you hear yourself starting to laugh?



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Offlinegreypoe
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Re: Me and you [Re: gribochek]
    #332316 - 06/02/01 11:12 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

freedom to restrict freedom,
this shows that freedom is a myth, an illusion if freedom can be taken away at any time you are not free, if you are restricted to a world of energy you are not free.
How do you know if there is a freedom, an exsistance other then here.

Are you awake?
What happend 5 minuntes ago?



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OfflineChonger
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Re: Me and you [Re: greypoe]
    #332520 - 06/02/01 04:23 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Freedom is simply the absense of self-imposed restriction.
So therfore freedom doesn't exist at an elemental level.



Its in your heart, its in your art, your beauty.
Even in this world of lies, theres purity.


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Offlinegribochek
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Re: Me and you [Re: greypoe]
    #333914 - 06/04/01 09:20 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Personally for you, Greypoe....

Observe your action. Where does it come from?
Intention precedes action.
Observe your intention. Where does it come from?
What precedes the intention?

What is that freedom you keep mentioning?
What is that control you keep wanting to have?
Don't you see that you have about as much choice,
As a rock falling down the slope?
Having done what you will do,
Have you any freedom to have acted otherwise?
Can the rock climb back up and try again?

Of all the things that just happen,
We have chosen some and called them "my actions".
Of all the things that just happen,
We have chosen others and called them "your actions".
But what will the world be like if you knew
No difference?




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