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InvisibleAnnapurna1
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was the election stolen??...
    #3316688 - 11/03/04 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the final gallup polls before the election (CNN) ..

florida...
ohio...

of course polls have been wrong before..but not this far off the mark...maybe it was just a simple case of the pollsters fucked up..or maybe it wasnt...we will never know...


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3316696 - 11/03/04 09:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
the final gallup polls before the election (CNN) ..

florida...
ohio...

of course polls have been wrong before..but not this far off the mark...maybe it was just a simple case of the pollsters fucked up..or maybe it wasnt...we will never know...




That is why I dont listen to POLLs.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3316727 - 11/03/04 09:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Three million votes weren't stolen. Kerry lost. He didn't lose big... but he lost worse than Gore.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3316749 - 11/03/04 09:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

George W. Bush won it fair and square. If it was going to be stolen by anyone, Kerry would have stole but he decided to concede instead.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3316752 - 11/03/04 09:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That didn't take long.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3316783 - 11/03/04 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
That didn't take long.




Really, Anna, let's not do this.
You said you were tired of being kicked around.
Stop walking into it.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3316821 - 11/03/04 10:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm. I like to consider possibilities regardless of their context.

Let's see, ol' Bushy's brother, the Governor, had his buddy put in no-reciept computer-voting-machines in a swing state which, ol' Bushy won!

Let's not do this? Let's trust the machines that the Bush family had put in!


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Rose]
    #3316901 - 11/03/04 10:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

>> Three million votes weren't stolen.

they only had to steal enough to win OH..not the whole 3.5M votes...had kerry won 250k votes more in OH..he would have won the election with 3.3M fewer votes than bush..which would not have been stolen either...

theres no way to prove that the machines were rigged..but that doesnt necessarily mean that they werent either...


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: carbonhoots]
    #3316925 - 11/03/04 10:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just face it... George W. Bush was appointed by God.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3317003 - 11/03/04 10:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The folks at blackboxvoting.org plan on working their asses off to find out whats really going on with this election and these shady voting machines..seems the outcome of the election could have been fixed somewhat easilly, and very well could have been.

"Black Box Voting (.ORG) is conducting the largest Freedom of Information action in history. At 8:30 p.m. Election Night, Black Box Voting blanketed the U.S. with the first in a series of public records requests, to obtain internal computer logs and other documents from 3,000 individual counties and townships. Networks called the election before anyone bothered to perform even the most rudimentary audit."

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3312444/an/0/page/2


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: ekomstop]
    #3317029 - 11/03/04 10:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So then if they rigged the machines, they planned to leave all the evidence inside the machines? Honestly if it was rigged we will never find out.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3318138 - 11/04/04 02:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.tedoneill.com/think/2004/10/electioneering-101.htm

Quote:

'I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.'' ? Chairman and CEO of Diebold Election Systems, Walden W. O?Dell




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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3318299 - 11/04/04 03:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The problem w/ Diebold's voting machines is that they don't produce a verifiable audit trail.

If the results were changed (and I see no reason to believe that they were), we probably will never know.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3318656 - 11/04/04 07:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I heard GWB threatened to fly planes into the voting booths at democratic strongholds in FL and OH....


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3318659 - 11/04/04 07:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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theres no way to prove that the machines were rigged..but that doesnt necessarily mean that they werent either...




I would love to face this kind of logic in court.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3318678 - 11/04/04 07:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To rule out the possibility completely that there was any form of tampering with the result of this election is to place your faith 100% in Bush and his cronies and if you are willing to do that then you may as well donate your brain to medical science because you obviously dont have much use for it.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3318704 - 11/04/04 08:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

theres no way to prove that the machines were rigged..but that doesnt necessarily mean that they werent either...

I would love to face this kind of logic in court.

Any fair court would have to dismiss the charge on lack of evidence.

It is not enough that justice be done, it must also be seen to be done.

The lack of an audit trail brings into question the electoral process, and therefore the legitimacy of the winner, especially when the election is close run. This is not a partisan issue (if it were then I would be worried).
All politicians should be concerned that their mandate is seen by all to be legitimate.

For the record, I choose to believe the result was fair.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3318710 - 11/04/04 08:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Noone is denying that there isnt proof. The point is that Bush is slimey.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3318759 - 11/04/04 09:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Any fair court would have to dismiss the charge on lack of evidence




that was my point.


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Re: was the election stolen??... [Re: 1stimer]
    #3318762 - 11/04/04 09:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Noone is denying that there isnt proof. The point is that Bush is slimey.




so you're saying that he's slimey independant of voter fraud? Or are you using his slimeyness as evidence?


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