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Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada
    #3314965 - 11/03/04 03:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not that they'll ever live up to their words.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=6704292
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By David Ljunggren
OTTAWA (Reuters) - Disgruntled Democrats seeking a safe Canadian haven after President Bush won Tuesday's election should not pack their bags just yet.

Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year.

"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'. In other words, there has to be an application. There has to be a reason why the person is coming to Canada," said immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi.

There are anywhere from 600,000 to a million Americans living in Canada, a country that leans more to the left than the United States and has traditionally favored the Democrats over the Republicans.

But recent statistics show a gradual decline in U.S. citizens coming to work in Canada, which has a creaking publicly funded healthcare system and relatively high levels of personal taxation.

Government officials, real estate brokers and Democrat activists said that while some Americans might talk about a move to Canada rather than living with a new Bush administration, they did not expect a mass influx.

"It's one thing to say 'I'm leaving for Canada' and quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school," said one government official.

Roger King of the Toronto-based Democrats Abroad group said he had heard nothing to back up talk of a possible exodus of party members.

"I imagine most committed Democrats will want to stay in the United States and continue being politically active there," he told Reuters.

Americans seeking to immigrate can apply to become permanent citizens of Canada, a process that often takes a year. Becoming a full citizen takes a further three years.

The other main way to move north on a long-term basis is to find a job, which in all cases requires a work permit. This takes from four to six months to come through. Continued ...




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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Stein]
    #3314974 - 11/03/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

why in God's name would someone want to move to Canada?......besides wholesale seal blubber.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Stein]
    #3314990 - 11/03/04 03:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The only reason I would move to canada is for vancuver. Never would I leave my country because I dont like who just got elected. Thats just bitching out and taking away your future vote


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3314994 - 11/03/04 03:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Those wackos that think life can't go on in America with Bush in the Whitehouse...I feel sorry for them, but wave them a heartfelt goodbye :bye:


Edited by Stein (11/03/04 03:08 PM)


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315001 - 11/03/04 03:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Canada is a home for liberals. Liberals rule the country with a solid fist. Heck, even after the federal liberals stole 250 million dollars of tax payer's money, the country re-elected the party.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315008 - 11/03/04 03:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone has their breaking point.
As I've said before, I have every intention of staying put...
But there are certain events that could change my mind. I'm sure most of us have a few.

If Bush got enough justices into the SC to reverse Roe vs Wade, I wouldn't hesistate to leave. A government that wants to restrict the rights of its citizens that much has to be either abolished or fled from. And Bush seems to be immune to just about any attack waged on him. So...


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3315027 - 11/03/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Canada is a home for liberals.




yet another reason to stay in my own country.

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Liberals rule the country with a solid fist. Heck, even after the federal liberals stole 250 million dollars of tax payer's money, the country re-elected the party. 




:what: Then are you saying Canadians are stupid?.....and you wonder why we don't agree with you wacky liberals.


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Edited by Innvertigo (11/03/04 03:12 PM)


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315031 - 11/03/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
why in God's name would someone want to move to Canada?......besides wholesale seal blubber.




I don't think I would ever move there... But I did the math and figured out that the increased taxes are cancelled out by the money I would save on pot, considering high quality pot is readily available there. Not living in constant fear of being locked up for drug use would be nice, too.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: DoctorJ]
    #3315046 - 11/03/04 03:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

What about living an unparanoid drug free life?


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: DoctorJ]
    #3315047 - 11/03/04 03:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'd rather pay higher taxes and not have bombs being dropped in my name, rather than pay deferred taxes (i.e. deficit spending & tax cuts) and have bombs dropped in my name by a perpetual warfare state.

but America is my home.
I'm not going any fucking where.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315072 - 11/03/04 03:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
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Canada is a home for liberals.




yet another reason to stay in my own country.

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Liberals rule the country with a solid fist. Heck, even after the federal liberals stole 250 million dollars of tax payer's money, the country re-elected the party. 




:what: Then are you saying Canadians are stupid?.....and you wonder why we don't agree with you wacky liberals. 




There's alot of things you disagree with - in the end its baseless; and historically, society evolves towards the Left, not the Right. In terms of Stem cell research, abortion, gay marriage, and every other issue that is countered by a suspension of reason in conservatives, liberals will never be wrong as long as the right is forced to go left when their ideas become outdated. Remember, the radical of yesterday is today's conservative. History pwns.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3315130 - 11/03/04 03:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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There's alot of things you disagree with - in the end its baseless; and historically, society evolves towards the Left, not the Right




apparantly your history is off a bit since the conservatives eeked out more power.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315225 - 11/03/04 03:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

America is conservative now because of the 9-11 attacks, that's all. Bush won in spite of the Iraq invasion. Most Americans wanted Bush to finish what he started.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Stein]
    #3315248 - 11/03/04 03:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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What about living an unparanoid drug free life?




that would be a violation of my personal liberties which I refuse to accept.

Why should I have to feel persecuted for doing someone that doesn't effect anyone else negatively?

America's drug policy is very offensive to me. I disagree with a lot of American policies in principle, but the drug policy is what effects me the most personally, and if I were ever to leave the US, it would probably be for that reason.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3315274 - 11/03/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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America is conservative now because of the 9-11 attacks, that's all




America has been becoming more conservative since the about the mid to late 70's.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: DoctorJ]
    #3315316 - 11/03/04 03:58 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It wouldn't be a violation if you voluntarily stopped, but its none of my business and I respect your view.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315350 - 11/03/04 04:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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America is conservative now because of the 9-11 attacks, that's all




America has been becoming more conservative since the about the mid to late 70's.




No, not entirelly. It had a Conservative peak in the 1980's near the end of the Cold War, and it is peaking again after 9-11 with America's new found realization that it is hated abroad. You're forgetting about the Go-Go 90's.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3315409 - 11/03/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

What about the Conservative takeover during the 90's with the contract with america? Face it, we are becoming more conservative. I'm not exactly happy about it either since i'm Fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3315882 - 11/03/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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why in God's name would someone want to move to Canada?



Well, I heard Rono gives good head.


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Re: Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3315943 - 11/03/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Let's just kill all the people that want to move to Canada.


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