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    #3307119 - 11/02/04 12:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I recently ran across some cacti that look exactly like the pachanoi/peruvianus at you friendly neighborhood "store".the name on the pot throws me though,"monti christi" or something like that.Does anyone know if they would put a different name on the cacti out of no knowledge of the active species,or as a deterrent to it? Sorry can not take pics at this time,but all the pics I have seen are the same as the peruvianus,and it looks like the one I ordered in the mail,only bigger,thicker,more healthy.Could anyone tell me if this could be an active cacti with a different name for the stores?


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Re: cacti [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #3314458 - 11/03/04 01:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Pictures would realy help


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Re: cacti [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #3314645 - 11/03/04 02:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Watch out for stetsonia coryne. Looks a lot like long-spined peruvianus, but has much larger fuzzy white areoles and huge red/black/greyish/white spines.


stetsonia coryne

Don't know if there are other close lookalikes...
This was the only one that fooled me into thinking it was a trich.

Pics would definitely help a lot.


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Re: cacti [Re: esin]
    #3314717 - 11/03/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the only Peruvian look alike is part of the cereus; it is called cereus peruvianus. Dont be fooled! cereus peruvianus is not what you want!!!!!!! you need Trichocereus peruvianus. cereus peruvianus contains bright red fruits when it reaches about 5ft in height.


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Re: cacti [Re: ethnobotany]
    #3315183 - 11/03/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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the only Peruvian look alike is part of the cereus; it is called cereus peruvianus. Dont be fooled! cereus peruvianus is not what you want!!!!!!! you need Trichocereus peruvianus. cereus peruvianus contains bright red fruits when it reaches about 5ft in height.




Trichocereus peruvianus http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=7121
Cereus Peruvianus http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=14677

How exactly is cereus peruvianus a trichocereus peruvianus lookalike?

The only similarity i can find is the name. And the fact that both are green  :tongue:.

Not to be picking on you, but there are certainly many cacti that are more similar to peruvian torch than cereus. It is certainly not the 'only lookalike'.

That may lead that he finds a cactus, go see a few pics of cereus. By realizing it is not a cereus P. he concludes it must definitely be a T. Peruvianus.

[that's what happened to me, didn't know of any lookalikes besides cereus, and bought a stetsonia, if i didn't have a cam to get it ID'ed i'd probably had eaten it or worse: extracted it and eaten its possibly harmful purified alkaloids]

Would be nice if someone knew more lookalikes. Close ones. Like with fat ribs and overall trichocereus look.


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Re: cacti [Re: esin]
    #3315324 - 11/03/04 04:01 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"Often mistaken for Trichocereus peruvianus because of the similar name"


read the link you posted.


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Re: cacti [Re: ethnobotany]
    #3315362 - 11/03/04 04:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Read the first post you wrote. You said it's a look alike. The site says that the cereus peruvianus is often mistaken because of the similar NAME.


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Re: cacti [Re: ethnobotany]
    #3315371 - 11/03/04 04:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Trichocereus peruvianus is very distinct, i do not consider any Cactaceae to visually look the same. Ofcourse there are different strains of peruvian torch that contain mescaline. the spines on stetsonia coryne are too long, the ribs are not as thick, spines are a totally difernt color, areoles are much thicker.



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Re: cacti [Re: ethnobotany]
    #3315390 - 11/03/04 04:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

stetsonia coryne does not look like peruvian torch. its just that picture that esin posted.

cereus peruvianus is mistaken for peruvian torch because of the similiar name.

I have never encountered a cacti that looks like Trichocereus Peruvianus, although it is possible that there are cacti that could look like it; stetsonia coryne does not look like peruvian torch.

Only your picture makes it look simular, if you find stetsonia coryne in the wild, YOU WILL NOT CONFUSE IT FOR PERUVIAN TORCH!.

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Re: cacti [Re: runnerup]
    #3315410 - 11/03/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ethnobotany's picture looks more like stetsonia coryne.

and cereus peruvianas looks like of like san pedro.


Edited by runnerup (11/03/04 04:26 PM)


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Re: cacti [Re: runnerup]
    #3315435 - 11/03/04 04:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I recently ran across some cacti that look exactly like the pachanoi/peruvianus

Okay first of all San Pedro, and Peruvian torch dont look alike either...

Whats going on with you guys?


SAN PEDRO




PERUVIAN




once again how does stetsonia coryne, look like peruvian torch.


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Re: cacti [Re: runnerup]
    #3315721 - 11/03/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You meant the name. Okey dokey :smile:
I still think stetsonia can be confused with peruvianus by a newbie.

My stetsonia coryne:


It looks pretty much like the first stetsonia pic i posted IMHO, just a lot smaller specimen. Obviously i looked for a pic which looked like my own specimen, which is prone to confusion for a newbie IMO...

Sorry can't see ethnobotany's pic, broken. Nor can i see runnerup pedro pic.
If it is that huge yellowish stet. specimen pic that's going around the net, you guys are right, it looks nothing like a Torch...

I had never seen a stetsonia or a t. peruvianus in person.
I did notice the spines and areoles were diferent than the pics i had seen, but the cheap price and the overall trichocereus-like look made me buy it.
When i asked for an ID in the nook i did mention right away the spines and areoles looked off to me.

Obviously now that i seen a stetsonia i won't confuse them. Had i known of stetsonia coryne's similarity and seen pics before, i probably wouldn't have mistaken them... That was the point when i asked for people to post other trichocereus-like cacti.


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