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burst grains
    #3305495 - 11/01/04 05:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

No matter what my buddy does he gets burst wbs. He has tried varying the soak time, pc time, simmer time, Nothing works .Actually he did a wbs jar un-simmered but it dried out real fast, no burst grains though.

He also has similar trouble with popcorn. Soaks for 24 hours then simmer or not they mostly end up burst. Currently pcing for 60 min @ 12 psi. He doesn't really want to go less for fear of contams and its only 12 psi.

Can you guys give me some advice i can pass on?

BTW wbs brand is Mills Bros and popcorn is generic Fry's brand.


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Re: burst grains [Re: MushBus]
    #3305573 - 11/01/04 05:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

its not really much to worry about to be honest... it will colonize just fine
unless it has become mush or overly wet


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Re: burst grains [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3305618 - 11/01/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well about 70% of his grains were wiped out by wetspot, it was very minor though.

I dont know what hes doing wrong. He drained very well and jars looked good untill about week two, then bam, bacteria.

Might havta drop the grains and go back to brf.


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Re: burst grains [Re: MushBus]
    #3307536 - 11/02/04 02:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Probably not simmering (should be on med-low when simmering, not high), or simmering for to long. And you want to drain them immediatly. Simmer for about 20 minutes and it should be good. Like prisoner said..burst kernals are ok as long as theyre not overly wet..generally they tend to be though.


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Re: burst grains [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3307955 - 11/02/04 06:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Reduce your simmer time and reduce your pc time to reduce burst grains=soaking has very little to do with moisture content.

When simmering, I usually just let the grains get good and hot [not boiling]and let them set for about 20 minutes, just under boiling.Stirring constantly to keep the grains on the bottom from exploding.

I have noticed more exploded grains when attempting to use other wbs formulas[name brands]other than my usual brand-Penningtons.

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Re: burst grains [Re: MushBus]
    #3308034 - 11/02/04 07:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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MushBus said:
No matter what my buddy does he gets burst wbs.  He has tried varying the soak time, pc time, simmer time, Nothing works .Actually he did a wbs jar un-simmered but it dried out real fast, no burst grains though.



Can you guys give me some advice i can pass on?

BTW wbs brand is Mills Bros and popcorn is generic Fry's brand.




try soaking your wbs for 12-20hrs and then just mixing in some dry verm(not more than 33% total) to soak up the extra water.no need to simmer just load jars and pc.
kramer notes that wbs can be very forgiving(as to moisture content)with the added verm(kramer likes fine verm for this)
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Re: burst grains [Re: george castanza]
    #3308965 - 11/02/04 01:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

here DUde .>>>fuck the soakin ..it KOOL and all,but i used to saok 24 hours and simmer and it takes damn long,you can sure fire it- ...throw your grain in to a big ass pot simmer on medium/low-<whatever you like but just make sre you stir and watch it closely ..and when the timing is right which would be about 15-20 min.stir and you'll find like 5% grain spltting,and THATS what you want ,.turn off the burner,make sure when you drain you skim all the sunflower seeds cuz those things can rape you if your lucky,make sure its cold water ,hot water washes away potential nutrients,then let it drain for like 20 min, make sure when you squeeze the grain only 1 or so light drops of water squeezes out ..then off to the pc you go..and inoculate ..""FOLLOW and ye SHALL YEILD!


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Re: burst grains [Re: botanisthype]
    #3308996 - 11/02/04 02:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

many ways of doing it...my friend finds it easy to simmer seeds for 45 min....then drain 30min and PC.


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