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OfflineTemazzie
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cold dunk and roll
    #3301444 - 10/31/04 03:28 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I just dunked two cakes and left them in the fridge for 24 hours.  When I took them out I rolled them in dry vermiculite.  Now they both look light blue.  I'm wondering if this is just from cold shocking, or from bruises from rolling the cake in vermiculite
Also,  any other cold shocking, dunking, and rolling info anyone has please post.  There's not much info on this site on these topics. :shocked:


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: Temazzie]
    #3301457 - 10/31/04 03:32 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

BTW, These cakes just finished their 1st flush.


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: Temazzie]
    #3301531 - 10/31/04 03:53 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Personally, I find that the popular advice to "roll in dry verm then mist" to be bunk. I'm sure it works for some, but what I've found is that most coarse verm doesn't readily make a good, even layer on the cake when rolled in dry. I suggest a complete reversal: use a premisted (lightly!) layer of FINE verm (go through coffee grinder /w coarse) in the bottom of a sterilized baking pan to roll in. That's just me though.

However, popular consensus is that with cakes, cold shocking is not needed and really only slows things down. Can't hurt, but you'd still get the same temp. drop trigger just by putting them directly in the fruiting chamber

Edited by krazycure (10/31/04 03:55 PM)

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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: krazycure]
    #3303741 - 11/01/04 05:59 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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krazycure said:
Personally, I find that the popular advice to "roll in dry verm then mist" to be bunk. I'm sure it works for some, but what I've found is that most coarse verm doesn't readily make a good, even layer on the cake when rolled in dry. I suggest a complete reversal: use a premisted (lightly!) layer of FINE verm (go through coffee grinder /w coarse) in the bottom of a sterilized baking pan to roll in. That's just me though.

However, popular consensus is that with cakes, cold shocking is not needed and really only slows things down. Can't hurt, but you'd still get the same temp. drop trigger just by putting them directly in the fruiting chamber




yes! dunk and roll!
it works great!
kramer dunks and rolls  before the  first flush...and just a  cold dunk after every other flush!
he uses fine verm and notes a  HUGE difference between rolling and not rolling
and cold dunking can only  help :thumbup:
so (cold)dunk and roll! you wont regret it!
a link on the d&r
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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: george castanza]
    #3303761 - 11/01/04 06:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Something is not right about what you said... should be coldshock, dunk and roll before first flush, and dunk only between each flushes. Coldshocking will only slow the growth.

Sam


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: Sam1912]
    #3303886 - 11/01/04 07:03 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

cold dunking does not hurt them iko and warm dunking has a higher contam rate iko
everyone will have, and of course, is welcome also,to there own opinions;)


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: george castanza]
    #3303893 - 11/01/04 07:09 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry George, but what is iko? :smile:

I also find fine grade verm to be the best to roll in! :thumbup:

In fact, I like fine grade verm for mixing with BRF as well rather than course.

- Silven


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: Silven]
    #3303906 - 11/01/04 07:23 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

in kramers opinion of course.

pure genius.


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3304178 - 11/01/04 09:33 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

lol, but i aint allowed to ask who he is! :laugh:


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3305357 - 11/01/04 03:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

its the guy on seinfeild,i heard he is a big shroom advocate lol

yea when fruiting cakes a good cold shock and then roll in verm always helps,those mushies love their water!!

P3K

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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: pizzle3k]
    #3305380 - 11/01/04 03:05 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Seinfeld? What is that?

A I google it! :laugh:

Thanks,
MF


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Re: cold dunk and roll [Re: Silven]
    #3305469 - 11/01/04 03:27 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with you on fine verm for roll. It's great for holding water. But as far as for the cake, I disagree. I use the coarse(7-12mm) verm for cakes. Fine verm tends to make "not packing" difficult and tends to colonize slower. I'm getting consistant colonization around 10 days with coarse verm. But I guess it's also matter of preference. I personally like cakes that move along fast instead of making me do tricks with it like flipping or laying on sides...

Sam


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