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Invisiblelooner2
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Draft Poll
    #3298355 - 10/30/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hypothetical...
If you were drafted in the near future, to fight in a war you didn't agree with, what would you do?
You may choose 1
I would go and fight.
I would flee the country.
I'd go to jail in protest.
Get out by saying gay, or something simliar


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3298361 - 10/30/04 07:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

saying your gay doesn't have anything to do with SS :smile:


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: Civ]
    #3298367 - 10/30/04 07:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, you know what I mean.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3298371 - 10/30/04 07:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a hippy liberal pacifist. I'm not gonna fight. I'd flee first.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: unbeliever]
    #3298394 - 10/30/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well i should have student residence in denmark for the next 4 or 5 years, so hopefully i would be ok...

otherwise, my birth is registered with the Hindu temple in Dayton,Ohio - so i can claim as a brahmin hindu that it is against my religion to kill...

"i ain't goin' to war for no shit talkin' president...

fuck bush fuck the war!" (bushwick bill, rappin' about the first gulf war... very eery how any political songs or comedy (esp. bill hicks) from the first gulf war is 100% current today, even down to the president's name!)


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: Krishna]
    #3298397 - 10/30/04 08:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

NOBODY wants either of you in the armed forces. Relax


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3298404 - 10/30/04 08:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:grin: i'm relaxed, don't worry...


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: Krishna]
    #3298428 - 10/30/04 08:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd get out because I have a bad shoulder (2 surgeries and many dislocations), history of mental illness (depression), and somewhat overweight. Yay4beingacripple!


There is no way I'd fight in this pointless war. Maybe if there was a war that needed to be fought (World War II), but I can't imagine giving my life to something that had no point.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: Twirling]
    #3298476 - 10/30/04 08:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ok - what about if a war like the spanish civil war was going on right now? would you leave the relative comfort of wherever you are and go and fight a man like Franco?

i really don't know what i'd do in such a situation...


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: Krishna]
    #3304066 - 11/01/04 10:51 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I am very strongly opposed the concept of a draft in a free nation. I think not only does it infringe on our most basic freedom, (decision as to kill or not to kill), it also acts as a safeguard against imperalism and political wars.

That being said, I would still go to fight if I was drafted. This may sound backwards, but I view it as a method of protest. Fighting in a war and dying for a cause you don't believe in and even think is wrong, is probably the most disheartening thing anyone can imagine. In that sense, it is MY protest. That is when shame should be felt by our country.

I just think saying goodbye to your father to fight in a war he knows you don't believe in, would be a more powerful statement than running to canada or going to jail, maybe it would cause others to question themself, instead of getting angry at their perceived, "cowardice".


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3304134 - 11/01/04 11:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If we were attacked then I would help fight but since I already served i'd never be drafted.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3306906 - 11/01/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

the draft is a touchy one definately

I hear alot of people saying that they wouldnt serve in a war like this, but they would if it was WWII...well that is looking in hindsight, and its alot easier to say that when we are looking at an unjust, disgusting war.

I know that in a nation where freedom is granted to you, it is expected of you to help defend that freedom in times of need, but i really dont think i could do it. I dont think my life would be worth living after taking another persons life. Maybe thats my way of copping out way down inside, but thats how i feel.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3306915 - 11/01/04 11:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd rather protest in prison than on the battlefield. At least that way I don't lose my life along with my liberty.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: silversoul7]
    #3307112 - 11/02/04 12:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I would go for the simple fact that I love living in this country. I wouldnt sign up and join the military knowing that my job may be to fight a war I dont agree with. But if it came down to me being drafted, I would go.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3307400 - 11/02/04 01:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I?m clinically psychotic according to the shrink and I refuse to take the medicine so I don?t think they would send me into combat


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: looner2]
    #3307408 - 11/02/04 01:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

there wont be a draft.


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Re: Draft Poll [Re: MrBump]
    #3307802 - 11/02/04 04:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I hope there will be a draft because I think it would be a gut check for our country. You have millions of people saying "Yea lets kill those terrorist sons of bitches!" but I bet if they realized they were being drafted they would rethink things. Once and for all question the arrogance of our country.


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