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OfflineMoxemerald
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Small shrooms?
    #3296886 - 10/30/04 11:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What causes small shrooms?

My friend has a casing with Koh Samui Classics and one is starting to open its cap up and it's about 2 inches tall only and the stem isnt really fat.


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3296907 - 10/30/04 12:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

its not the size that counts its how you use it. :penis:
how are the grow conditions?


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3296916 - 10/30/04 12:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It's usually a mix of things.

Remember, the Myc network "knows" how much substrate it has under it's control and will only develop shrooms which can be supported by it's own means. PF tek jars have a very small amount of nutrients compared to what most of the "big boys" you see here are grown on.

Also, improper air exchange (excessive CO2 buildup) can cause shroomies to open up and mature quicker. Try fanning more. Also, misting, on both cakes and casings, will help, especially if you rolled the cakes in verm...

BTW, Koh Samui is known to be relatively small yet potent and often 'clusters' it's fruits which are incredible to look at. Here are some I grew out a while ago..



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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: krazycure]
    #3296935 - 10/30/04 12:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Those are about 3-4x the size of my friends.

Ill tell him to fan more.


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3297021 - 10/30/04 12:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ok I just got the info.

My friend fans about 3-4 times a day.

Mists once every other day.

Light for 8-9 hours a day.

The casing is all verm and it was one cake - could this be why?


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3297093 - 10/30/04 01:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Most probable, the substrate thickness with one cake is very thin. I would try a thicker substrate layer next time and the fruits will be larger.


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: woodzmun]
    #3297186 - 10/30/04 01:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Think it could also be because there are about 30-40 pins?

I mean since it's only one cake with so many pins, that could be why they are all generally a bit small?


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3297229 - 10/30/04 01:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah there are only so much of nutes and water too go around. And with one cake I say you are right.


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3297392 - 10/30/04 02:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm having massive amounts of pins as well on my koh samui super strains, one cake has been just pinning like hell for a week and only has one mushroom about 3" long on it, the rest are 1" or less.

I fan around 3 times a day currently, and do not mist because I have heard it causes aborts if you mist after pinning has occured.

My conditions seem to be almost perfect.  73 degrees F, and 95% humidity.  I'm failing to see my mistake here, maybe I need to fan more?  But I have a rather large tupperware bin (I'll get what size later) with only 6 cakes so I figured that there's a lot of room for CO2 to settle..

Any ideas on what I could do to get this fruiting faster or larger?

My equadors did great! :thumbup:

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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: Silven]
    #3298443 - 10/30/04 08:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Dont worry about the size of shrooms..worry about the weight. If you get over 5 grams you did pretty good. Thicker substrate will equal thicker shrooms. Had the substrate been twice as thick..all those pins would have grew taller. Always shoot for 1 1/2"-1 3/4" thickness.


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Re: Small shrooms? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3354616 - 11/13/04 05:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm on my first grow too and i'm growing the normal koh samui, within a week there were absolutly loads of pins, at this stage though they arent quite like the pics ive seen tohugh as theyve grown quite tall and havnt broken veil yet.. About 4 of them are between 3 and 4 inches high and slightly thiner than a pencil. Does this sound ok? Theyre also growing in all kindsa strange angles and bends lol


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