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Offlineiamgod
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Hot Spore Injection (Straw)
    #3296772 - 10/30/04 11:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, my title might be a bit misleading.

Basically I want to know about straw. If I were to whip up a mycobag with some shredded straw and rye berries, sterilize it in the PC, and later shoot it up with a multispore solution, would it colonize?

My main concern is that straw gets contaminated quickly when it is exposed to the outside environment. Would it still contam so quickly whilst inside the spawn bag?

Thanks.


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: iamgod]
    #3296893 - 10/30/04 11:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have tried what you are wanting to do with many different ratios of rye:straw and have not had very good outcomes. IME the bags that have had more rye over straw have seemed to have a better chance of making it through the colonization procees without getting contaminated. Others may have had more success with this then me. What I have found to work much much much much better is to just inoculate a bag of rye berrys and to then once that bag has colonized, use the colonized rye berries to spawn several bags of pasturized straw. This has work extremely well for me. It seems to me that sterilized straw does contaminate very easily even in bags do to benificial microbes being killed off in the sterilization process. Hope this is of some help


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: mushroomspoon]
    #3297550 - 10/30/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome mushroomspoon thats exactly what I was looking for. I was wondering wether it would be better to just inoc rye berries and then use that for straw. Thanks.

Also would anyone know if straw would colonize faster if i gave it a ground coffee soak?


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: iamgod]
    #3297923 - 10/30/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

No coffee ideas?


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: iamgod]
    #3297940 - 10/30/04 05:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

dont do it. coffe would just invite contams. after u hav ur solonized mass, maybe soak it in sum dilute coffee. always dunk.

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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3316926 - 11/03/04 10:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

While pressure cooking my bags of straight grain there were places where the bags got melted. I had a towel on the bottom of the PC, and the bags placed inside of two pillow cases.

What is the best way to prevent the bags from melting or being burned? My PC is ancient, as in Maid of Honor 16qt from 1960's.


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: iamgod]
    #3317005 - 11/03/04 10:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hey I am developing a spore to straw tek as we speak

But I am using pint jars.

Instead of PCing it I just pasturized the straw as normal. Then packed straw into the jars and filled the top with Verm. then repasturized straw in jars again.

I went ahead with regular PF tek

It's been 14 days and tommorow I am birthing them.

I think if you didn't sterilze and just pastureized you may have some good results.

But all I have proven to myself so far is that spores will germinate on straight straw. No shrooms yet. The myc looks very healthy

I am guessing one good flush and nothing more.


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: iamgod]
    #3317017 - 11/03/04 10:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have a old ass PC also. When I use bags I wrap them in many layers of Alum Foil to keep them from sticking to the sides of the PC


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3317073 - 11/03/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i only know about the hot beef injection, sorry.

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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: xistenz]
    #3317088 - 11/03/04 10:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Silly faggot dicks are for chicks

LOL :lol:


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Re: Hot Spore Injection (Straw) [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3318671 - 11/04/04 07:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Heh, thanks Fucknuckle, im gonna try using layer of aluminum foil on my bags in conjunction with the pillowcases.


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