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kratom resin extract?
    #3293501 - 10/29/04 01:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

has anyone tried iamshaman's Kratom Resin Extract? found here

any good experiences?


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3293522 - 10/29/04 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It works. Feels 'cleaner' than the leaf but no as pronounced in effect. Its really hard resin so you'll need a hot substance to dissolve it in. I prefer the leaf


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3293531 - 10/29/04 01:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

go with the leaf


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: gdman]
    #3294558 - 10/29/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

eh, I cannot stand the taste of the tea.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3295185 - 10/29/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

neither can I. I prefer the powdered leaf straight onto the back of my tongue and chased with water. Resin is too hard and doesn't fully digest, wasting a lot of it.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Organic]
    #3295216 - 10/29/04 10:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

reallyu? the tea taste fine compared to other things...


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: gdman]
    #3295235 - 10/29/04 10:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the first "kratom" tea I had was that mellow gold shit, the bunk kratom that went around for the first few months of it being on the market. that stuff made me gag and gave no effect, I guess I associate the kratom tea taste with it since they are similar. its got nothing on calea z tea or pedro syrup though

powdered and washed down is convenient and easy for me although I have friends that simply cannot swallow the dry powder and need the tea


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Organic]
    #3296555 - 10/30/04 08:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What are the effects of Kratom?

Is it potent like weed?


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Ego Death]
    #3296584 - 10/30/04 09:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

overall - like a low opiate dose. stimulant at los doses, and opiate like/more sedative at high doses. do a search.



I don't mind the taste of the tea much. theres stuff that's worse.
and the powder is pretty hard for me to get down by itself and juice or whatever. so i pretty much always go with a tea.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Locus]
    #3296667 - 10/30/04 10:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

just had some lovely morning tea :wink:


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: gdman]
    #3296675 - 10/30/04 10:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

boy oh boy :smile:, this new batch is definitly better


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Organic]
    #3297012 - 10/30/04 12:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, I cannot stand kratom tea. Vomitose.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: gdman]
    #3297083 - 10/30/04 01:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

haha, nice :smile:


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3301479 - 10/31/04 05:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have two Kratom extracts that were sent to me as a sample from someone.

The one was powdery but still gooey enough to mold into a ball, it was light brown. Didn't do too much but had noticable effects. It got moldy quick.

This other stuff i have is like glass shards or rock candy that is dark red but not completely opaque. I smoke it and it bubbles and crackles, produce a pretty nice tasting smoke and has better effects than the other stuff. Not as strong as tea though (which i think tastes comparable to pod tea). If i had a digital camera i'd takea picture. I went to Iamshaman's site but i didn't see pictures of the extract to compare it with.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: neuro]
    #3302327 - 10/31/04 09:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Neuro,

I got my resin acetate extract from IAMSHAMAN, and it was exactly how you described your extract (almost the color and opaqueness of a root-beer barrel candy)....  The resin package says "2gr for a light experience, and 4gr for a more intense experience"....  When I first got mine it was plyable in consistancey, but it sat for a month or two and it did seem to dry out and got very crunchy, like breaking candy....  I ingested 6gr of the resin with only moderate effects last Friday night, so I am thinking that maybe time diminishes it's effects....  I had tried a 4gr dose the previous week with very little effects, and that is why I tried the 6gr dose...  I also take an opiate med in moderate to low doses daily, so this might also have an adverse tolerance effect on me with Kratom....  :shrug:

I am going to try the powdered Kratom leaf that everybody keeps giving rave reviews about....  I was hoping that Locus's "Kratom Vendor Comparisons" thread was going to give some more helpful comparisons/reviews, but the thread seemed to take a little different direction....  :frown:

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Edit:  It sounds like the stuff that got moldy on you might have been a water extracted Kratom....  I have read that if you make the tea with a lot of leaves, and simmer down till the water is just about gone, you can make a "resin ball" that you can just swallow - as opposed to drinking the tea....  Maybe that would explain why it got moldy on ya~....?


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #3302428 - 10/31/04 10:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>>got my resin acetate extract from IAMSHAMAN, and it was exactly how you described your extract (almost the color and opaqueness of a root-beer barrel candy).... The resin package says "2gr for a light experience, and 4gr for a more intense experience".... When I first got mine it was plyable in consistancey, but it sat for a month or two and it did seem to dry out and got very crunchy, like breaking candy.... I ingested 6gr of the resin with only moderate effects last Friday night, so I am thinking that maybe time diminishes it's effects.... I had tried a 4gr dose the previous week with very little effects, and that is why I tried the 6gr dose... I also take an opiate med in moderate to low doses daily, so this might also have an adverse tolerance effect on me with Kratom....

That is most likely the source of my sample extracts or the source of iamshaman's extract or whatever. I've never bothered to try to eat the extract, but perhaps i should to compare. The drying out of the extract is probably good. I'd venture to guess that the Kratom Acetate is a little hydroscopic or wasn't completely dried out and wherever you left it, it dried out or no water got in and it. I doubt it's dimished in potency so long as the color hasn't radically changed except whatever refraction was due to water.


>>It sounds like the stuff that got moldy on you might have been a water extracted Kratom.... I have read that if you make the tea with a lot of leaves, and simmer down till the water is just about gone, you can make a "resin ball" that you can just swallow - as opposed to drinking the tea.... Maybe that would explain why it got moldy on ya~....?

That's probably right. I wasn't told how these extracts were made or even what they really were other than two different kratom extracts. What you said makes sense however.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: neuro]
    #3315620 - 11/03/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

man the more I drink this stuff, the more I can't stand drinking it :lol: (probably because I'm upping my dose at times), oh well, I deal with it :smirk:


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: neuro]
    #3316419 - 11/03/04 08:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Cool thing is, kratom probably gets more potent with time and "improper" storage. The oxidation process of mitragynine results in mitragynine pseudoindoxyl, which is 20 times more potent than morphine. Since it's a 100 times stronger than mitragynine, it is likely kratom gets stronger with age and bad handling. I don't think anyone knows the exact qualitatively differences between mitragynine and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl, but it is a potent agonist of mu and delta opiod receptors. I would assume the pseudoindoxyl makes up some part of the experience already though.


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Re: kratom resin extract? [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #3317678 - 11/04/04 12:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>>I would assume the pseudoindoxyl makes up some part of the experience already though.

Most likely.

I wonder if an extraction using peroxide in the mix would help facilitate things.


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