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OfflineZeroArmy27
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Peruvianus?
    #3293140 - 10/29/04 11:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guys, I usually hang out in the mushroom cultivation section, but I have some questions for you.

I bought two small cacti from K-mart two months ago... they looked like the San Pedro I already had except the spines were a different color and the skin had a wicked blue to it... but now I'm not so sure.

it kind of looks like this: http://www.erowid.org/plants/show_image.php?i=cacti/trichocereus_peruvianus6.jpg

The indention between the ribs disappears about halfway down the plants (they weren't like this when I bought them... but they were really really dehydrated too) and it's almost flat between the ribs in those places. The spines are yellow/black and there's one that's usually longer than the rest in each areole (spelling?).

Now for the question... do pedros/torches have the deep indention between the ribs on the whole plant, or is there still a possibility my plants are pedro/torch? I don't really know too much about the Trichocerus family of cacti... any help would be appreciated.


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3293493 - 10/29/04 01:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

a picture would help a lot.


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: felixhigh]
    #3293511 - 10/29/04 01:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Are all cacti that look pretty much like trichocereus, trichs? There are supposed to be an insane amount of cacti species. Are all cacti that grow (pretty much) strait up, have 4 or more thick ribs and those "V notches" trichs?

Are there look alikes? Cacti that have all the standard Trich characteristics, but are in fact some other crazy cactus? possibly poisonous? I wouldn't hunt for mush for these reasons.

Are trich seeds unique? Is there a deffinative way to tell?


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3293632 - 10/29/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There is no way to tell you without a pic. It sounds to me like a blue myrtle which is not psychoactive but that's not a definate ID. They are usually flat sided as seedlings and as they get bigger they show the valleys and later will branch and put out wicked spines. Pedro spines are usually kind of off white.


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3294177 - 10/29/04 04:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

recalcitrant said:
Are all cacti that look pretty much like trichocereus, trichs? There are supposed to be an insane amount of cacti species. Are all cacti that grow (pretty much) strait up, have 4 or more thick ribs and those "V notches" trichs?

Are there look alikes? Cacti that have all the standard Trich characteristics, but are in fact some other crazy cactus? possibly poisonous? I wouldn't hunt for mush for these reasons.

Are trich seeds unique? Is there a deffinative way to tell?




Yes, there are trichocereus lookalikes.
I just bought a stetsonia coryne a few days ago that looked very much like t. peruvianus except for the very long spines and the large bright white areoles.

I would swear it was a trich before i got it ID'ed by people who know better than me.

Besides, trichocereus aren't all active. Cacti usually consumed for their mescaline are pachanoi, peruvianus and bridgesii.

And no, trichocereus seeds aren't unique. They look just like many other cacti seeds.


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: esin]
    #3295289 - 10/29/04 10:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: faslimy]
    #3295368 - 10/29/04 10:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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www.columnar-cacti.org



that's a cool page.


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #3295375 - 10/29/04 10:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, great pics eh


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: faslimy]
    #3302509 - 10/31/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yep, you called it. it's a blue myrtle, picture was the clencher.

it's no big deal, really. i have a large cactus collection as it is, i was just hoping i could have gotten something that cool from K-mart.


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Re: Peruvianus? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3303189 - 11/01/04 02:12 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

To my knowledge none of the trich look-alikes are poisonious, at least not in the sense that you'd be likely to die. Probably make you rather nautious and maybe throw-up, but even trichs have been known to do that.


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