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Offlinefloydguitar
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improved potency?
    #3293079 - 10/29/04 10:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i have been using the pf tek for awhile. does anyone believe that there is a method for improved potency? just curious thanks.


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InvisibleNewfoundFreedom
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Re: improved potency? [Re: floydguitar]
    #3293105 - 10/29/04 11:08 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You can use grains.


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Offlinefloydguitar
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Re: improved potency? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #3293109 - 10/29/04 11:10 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

never tried grains before will definitely try on the next batch. much appreciated.


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Offlinescatmanrav
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Re: improved potency? [Re: floydguitar]
    #3295429 - 10/29/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure it will increase potency..it may. It will definatly increase yeilds. Try different strains. GT and Z have been the most potent (in backwards order).


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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InvisibleNewfoundFreedom
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Re: improved potency? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3295558 - 10/29/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Grains have more nutrients available and produce more potent mushrooms. Also there has been quite a bit of speculation on whether or not one strain is more potent than another. A cubensis is a cubensis. The potency mainly depends on how well you've grown them.


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Re: improved potency? [Re: floydguitar]
    #3295564 - 10/29/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I read a tek that's somewhere on this site (don't know what it is), but someone somehow introduce tryptamine into their substrate and according to their report a very experienced psychonaut could not handle more than 1.5 grams.  I also believe they were just standard cubensis, not cyans/etc.

Amazing, wouldn't it be? :wink:

- Silven


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They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
their capacity for total lust & sexual abberation.
3) Scorpios possess great intellectual curiosity & creative talent. They
think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
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Re: improved potency? [Re: Silven]
    #3295654 - 10/30/04 12:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i read the same thing one time silven it was talking about how mushrooms break tryptamine down into psylocybin or psilocin, i cant remember the ins and outs but i know what your talking about, floyd look into this and let us know what you find.


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Re: improved potency? [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3295749 - 10/30/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It can be done, but I think tryptamine hydrochloride is on the DEA's watch list. I'm not entirely sure.


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Re: improved potency? [Re: DNKYD]
    #3295837 - 10/30/04 01:27 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

definetly let us know if that is a fact


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Re: improved potency? [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3295886 - 10/30/04 01:42 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Substituting organic rye flour for brown rice flour in PF tek jar prep may help potency, as well as adding a bit of coffee to the intial water content.....


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Re: improved potency? [Re: krazycure]
    #3295950 - 10/30/04 02:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Is it Tryptamine or Tryptophan?


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InvisibleNewfoundFreedom
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Re: improved potency? [Re: discman1]
    #3295973 - 10/30/04 02:14 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Trytophan is in turkey. It's what makes you tired. I'm sure other things contain trytophan as well but you'd be looking to supplement the substrate with tryptamines. I know I've seen plenty of threads on this in the past. If I don't fall asleep too soon I'll do a search on it and report my findings.


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Re: improved potency? [Re: NewfoundFreedom]
    #3296047 - 10/30/04 03:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm... Interesting. After a bit of research, it appears that tryptamine and tryptophan are quite similar. You can synthesize tryptamine by decarboxylating L-tryptophan.


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Re: improved potency? [Re: discman1]
    #3296401 - 10/30/04 07:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I've grown pounds off all four strains..all in the same conditions..repeatidly I, my roommate, girlfriend, a few dozen friends and a few more dozen other people have given feedback. All of it has a much more intense (though shorter) trip from Z's then brazils. GT's vary in potency and sometimes you can get either..Cambodians havn't been thouroughly feedbacked yet but basic impressions are average length and potency.

If you look around at people who actually researched and determined amounts of actives in mushrooms and different strains you will see that trends to occur with certain strains generally having different amounts of different actives (3-4 main actives along with a few other chemicals that may or may not influence the trip). It obviously varies from shroom to shroom and substrate to substrate but strains do tend to have general trends. At least substrains..I've seen very different looking GT's then mine though and I have accidentally come about a different variation of my original Z's. They are nothing like the strain from the spores I originally got. Things like this can make someone else have a very different view on the same strain. I definatly think that potentcy is partially carried on through the strain and can vary more strain to strain then just casing to casing.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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