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Offlinekrazycure
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Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes!
    #3292868 - 10/29/04 09:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A few days ago I asked if it was possible, I got mixed responses but the 'elders' here said it was a bad idea. Boy were they right.  :rolleyes:

I merged 2 PF cakes into one larger one after they were in the fruiting chamber with no pins after 4 days. 3 days in an incubator and 4 days after being put back, it indeed was pinning: internally. Sure, a few shroomies popped out on the sides, but the major growth starting occuring INSIDE the cake, and, of course, after a few more days, the shrooms inside forced parts of the cake to crumble and fall apart.... Today I woke up to a giant cake in ruins with a few proud big-headed deformed-as-all-hell mushies in the center of the mess.  :sad:

Learn from my mistakes...I think I'll only be able to get one flush off this cake seeing as it's inevitable a shroom or two will get lodged somewhere that I won't be able to clear it, rot, and contam the whole cake...  :thumbdown:

I was able to form the pieces back into a somewhat cohesive ...lump.. but I'm sure this only hurt my chances of a decent yield from those two cakes..  :crazy:


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Re: Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes! [Re: krazycure]
    #3292941 - 10/29/04 09:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry but I dont understand. Obviousally you let your cakes colonize much to long if they pinned internally. Knots were already forming.

People crumble cakes all the time with huge success. Next time birth your cakes when they fully colonize, and dont give them light during incubation.


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Re: Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes! [Re: krazycure]
    #3292947 - 10/29/04 09:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

wait did you case them or did you just smush to cakes toghether? I just fruited 15 cakes then cased em all together after the first flush. i now have a wonderful casing. Im not sure what you did, but casing already birthed cakes is fine if you do it correctly, see for yourself

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3287547/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD


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Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
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Re: Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes! [Re: beejay]
    #3292960 - 10/29/04 09:56 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Doesnt matter if he cased them or made flat cakes. People have high success with both methods.


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Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes! [Re: Citric]
    #3292982 - 10/29/04 10:03 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What happened was that 2 of the 3 cakes I birthed didn't even break the surface of the verm I rolled them in for 4 days. I ASSUMED (incorrectly) that since they hadn't gotten much (any) light they in turn would do fine to crumble, case, and incubate. Apparently though, they must have gotten a few little pins that I didn't see, and thus, my current situation...

I definitely should have waited until after the first flush to attempt something like that, but, it seemed like a viable idea at the time...I cold shocked/dunked all three before birthing, and only one started showing signs of recovering after 4 days. I should have known...


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Re: Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes! [Re: krazycure]
    #3292986 - 10/29/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There is your problem. The knots were already forming. Introducing light 'flips a switch' so to speak. It puts the myc into fruiting mode.

You should get two flushes out of it atleast.


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Self Healing lid tek
Fast, easy, fool proof inoculation
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: Tip: Don't case already birthed cakes! [Re: krazycure]
    #3292987 - 10/29/04 10:06 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

next time just rinse them off well under tap water before you crumble and case. Make sure to rub off excess verm., pins, knotts, and anything that can be loosely rubbed off. This should solve your problem in the future.


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Anjaba said:
Oh shit, don't drink it.... It would eat away your esophagus...
mantis said:
Leave me out of this pissing contest, you fascist wang-dang-doodle!
Hattori Hanzo said:
If on your journey, you should encounter God, God will be cut


Edited by beejay (10/29/04 10:07 AM)


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