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Invisibleblacksh33p18
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Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM.
    #3292476 - 10/29/04 03:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've always had the slowest mycelium growth on the block, so slow I decided I test out a little half assed project. I sterilized my growth chamber as best as possible, by boiling my pearlite and letting it sit in the growth chamber over night. instead of using coldwater in my humidity system (the ole' airstone in glass jar) I filled it with hot water to get the temp in the chamber up to 79-81 degrees fareheit, from that point on I carefully put my colonizing jars into the chamber opened them and watched the temp and went to sleep, I went back later next day and kept the temp nice and warm the humidity was through the roof and one the second day I took a look at the jars and they were growing amazingly fast as far as my jars go. The open air jars was not the best idea in the world but, the experiment did wonders for my jars, it was like I put a supercharger on an engine. I know proper heat and humidity are old news but, I felt I was reading too much and not contributing enough to the forum, not to mention its an ok story.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: blacksh33p18]
    #3292590 - 10/29/04 04:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Humidity is not an issue for incubating mycelium. The humidity in the jar should be very high.

How do you usually have your jars? Tape, tinfoil, tyvek? I'm betting that the increase in metabolism was due to the introduction of fresh air.

Mycelium needs a high CO2 concentration to stay in vegetative growth mode, but too high will slow and perhaps even hault growth.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: discman1]
    #3293106 - 10/29/04 11:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

definitely have to agree with discman1. the humidity has nothing to do with the growth of mycelium. you just needed fresh air.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: floydguitar]
    #3293113 - 10/29/04 11:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

vent vent let tose babies breath..lol


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: djred]
    #3293313 - 10/29/04 12:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Black Sheep, what tek are you following?

We need to stop the spreading of misinformation.

This part worries me >>> "put my colonizing jars into the chamber opened them and"

You're going to get contams. You do not need humidity in your incubator. Just read the tek!!! Don't make stuff up.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: blacksh33p18]
    #3293727 - 10/29/04 02:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

FYI mycelium thrives in very high RH, just so your on the same page. The RH couldn't be any higher in a jar which was the point everyones trying to make and I agree. We who are successful at quick colonization times in jars don't do anything special besides making sure water content of the jars are correct and gas exchange is sufficient at 82-84F. temps. GL


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: hyphae]
    #3293849 - 10/29/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

As long as you got tyvek on your jars, your grain was properly hydrated and streilized, and your incubation temps at 80F and up then you'll have fast colonization.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: KlingonFromUranus]
    #3294020 - 10/29/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ok wait. This here newbie is again confused. The PF tek uses heavy duty masking tape over the injection holes. I've read teks that use electrical tape. Where does the gas exchange come in?
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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: ticktock]
    #3294069 - 10/29/04 04:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Tape really is not all that necessary, you'll soon learn. As long as you got foil loosely over the lids, and unscrew the tops about 1/3 to 1/4 turn, just enough to let them breath. I'm still a noob myself but you learn fast around here.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: chilly]
    #3294205 - 10/29/04 04:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

tyvek is the best

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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: ticktock]
    #3294687 - 10/29/04 07:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

With lids sealed tight and tape on holes there is no gas exchange and jars will soon stall the majority of the time. Lose the tape and gain with foil it's so much easier. :wink:


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: hyphae]
    #3294709 - 10/29/04 07:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

OK, but I hate to switch horses in mid stream. My first PF jars each have 4 fuzzy pretty patches today. I used the sticky parts of band aids over the holes.

How about if I let it colonize for a while? Once there's a bunch of mycelium, it might be able to fight off contams better. After that I can open the holes and cover with tyvek. What do you think?


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: ticktock]
    #3294799 - 10/29/04 08:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It's definitely not switching horses midstream in the least! (better now than later). It saddens me to see some people still not understand the benefits of good gas exchange (faster colonization). Forget the Tyvek with PFTek, verm and foil will be more than enough protection (FACT!) :wink: Using Tyvek with PFTek is a waste of good Tyvek IMHO. I recommend a winning combination everytime!!! Just a tip to increase your chances of success and decrease your chances of failure it's up to you now! :wink: GL bro


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Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: hyphae]
    #3294885 - 10/29/04 08:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hyphae said,
It saddens me to see some people still not understand the benefits of good gas exchange (faster colonization).

Hi Hyphae,

In my defense, the PF tek is touted as being the most foolproof way to start out. I pretty much followed it to the letter. Now I'm finding that there are at least a couple of things that seem to be dead wrong with it. *Sigh*

Ok, I'll lose the tape and use some freshly sterilized aluminum foil. Thanks for the advice.


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: ticktock]
    #3294953 - 10/29/04 08:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It's not really a matter of dead wrong just an improvement. Sure tape works at keeping water out but so does foil PLUS it keeps moisture in without inhibiting gas exchange in the least! Also you don't have to worry about taking it off after the myc takes off. :wink: The original teks should be updated ASAP IMHO like everything else in life. :laugh:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Re: Slow mycelium action, two cheap small tricks and BOOM. [Re: discman1]
    #3296378 - 10/30/04 06:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm using a modified PF involving duct tape and thats all I have ever been using except for casing post colonized jars. I am not technically a noob but, I beceause I have been experimenting for a a few years now off and on and never taking it really seriously. I am by means and expert or entertaing the thought but, I know the freash warm air did a world of good.


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