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Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa
    #3290720 - 10/28/04 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi, I've collected 3 pounds of amanitas today and have a few questions. The large ones I have are very faded in color from all the rain this past week. The ones just coming up are orangish/red and look like eggs. Does the fading affect potency at all? Could this be another strain growing in with the formosas? They were all within 2 feet of each other in abundance. Thanks.

Heres a picture of one I harvested a month or so back.


Heres some I collected today.



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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: hostage]
    #3290746 - 10/28/04 07:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry, I forgot to post more info about them.

They smell like mushrooms and bread.
Spore print is white.
I found them under pine trees in southern Virginia.
The stem was hollow and large, with a veil.
Cap is about 6" across, stem is about 8 inches from ground to cap.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: hostage]
    #3290756 - 10/28/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I dont eat them myself so I cant help you there.. I cant say for sure that you even have muscarinas. However I do notice that the color fades in the mature or older specimens. I dont think that it is another strain. This makes it much harder to identify which makes them risky to consume. I wouldnt suggest eating them.
here are some faded ones that i found a couple weeks ago.

As far as potency goes you would jave to ask someone else.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: hostage]
    #3290773 - 10/28/04 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thats exactly what they look like here. All same characteristics.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: hostage]
    #3290782 - 10/28/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the smaller and the more red and less upturned the more potent.. the most potent part is the top layer of skin .. naturally sun dried in tact muscaria are supposedly most potent


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    #3291450 - 10/28/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We can't identify Amanitas by seeing only the top of the cap. We also need to see the volva and ring, at a minimum. There are a lot of Amanita species that have cap colors like those and warts like those.

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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3292133 - 10/29/04 02:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd have to say the first photo is yellow fly agaric, not entirely sure about the last two, could be another species of amanita or an aged formosa?


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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: Super_Blunt]
    #3301577 - 10/31/04 06:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I got a small one and kept it intact so i could take a pic of the whole body. I am very confident it is amanita muscaria var. formosa, but im not an expert so id like opinions from someone whos more experienced with this mushroom. Thanks.



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Re: Amanita Muscaria var. Formosa [Re: hostage]
    #3322903 - 11/05/04 03:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi again, I just wanted to post a pic of the last shroom I picked. Please dont flame me for being so redundant :smile:


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    #3322934 - 11/05/04 03:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

appear to be formosa, if your gonna eat em better throw em in the oven quick before maggots get to 'em.


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    #3323636 - 11/05/04 10:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The last one is certainly amanita muscaria. I'd even eat it if you offered...... you no- sharing bastard! Nice finds man, but watch out because just like Toxicman said, you will, esp. under these pines in the south, find many varieties of mushroom with warts and warm cap colors (red, brown, tan, yellow, beige, and though it's not a warm color, white- like the group of ammonia smelling amanitas which just the other week someone brought some to me professing they had found "panthers"). You have a good time now.


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