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Offlineymhrswrider
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Question about the best way to dunk a casing.
    #3290382 - 10/28/04 06:46 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Alright, I plan to case the next cakes that come out. I know that they need to be dunked but not cold shocked. Here's my question, do I dunk the whole cake before I crumble it or do I crumble, let the myc grow to the top, and then dunk? What if I dunk the cake, crumble, let the myc show through, and then cold shock the case without dunking again? Any thoughts?

Also, Brazilians rock. I birthed one of my cakes too early and it had a fairly large spot of subtrate showing when I put her into the fruiting chamber. I was stressed that it was going to contam overnight because of this. I woke up this morning though, and the quarter sized area was completely covered with a THICK layer of myc. Cool.


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3290647 - 10/28/04 07:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I was stressed that it was going to contam overnight because of this. I woke up this morning though, and the quarter sized area was completely covered with a THICK layer of myc. Cool.


Great. I was wondering what sort of trouble that might cause. Interesting to know.


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3290672 - 10/28/04 07:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you could dunk the cakes, just cut them in half and put them in a clean jar with water for a day. or you could crumble them up and mix them with field capacity (h2o saturated) verm @ a ratio of 2 parts verm 1 part cake, this would give the myc moisture to suck up in the casing. also reducing the possibility of contam while dunking.. good luck.


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    #3292690 - 10/29/04 06:32 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: dustpan5]
    #3292704 - 10/29/04 06:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You dunk the cakes (cold shock if you want, doesn't matter..just wherever theyre out of the way, it wont help or hurt) then aften the dunk, crumble and case and incubate for 2-3 days until myc shows through..patch with some extra casing (cover the early myc to give the rest a chance to catch up) and mist and put into fruiting chamber. Keep at optimum conditions and wait for the Brazils to flow..

Brazils on rye:


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3292759 - 10/29/04 07:46 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

what a nice load of shrooms skatman! :thumbup:
Nice pictures!


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3292768 - 10/29/04 07:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

scatman, you have some FULL dehydrator segments. damn i wish i was filling mine up like that... soon though, bulk is my next project.


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3292849 - 10/29/04 08:53 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Scat, do you actually use the dehydrator? I mean.. do you plug it in and have it get hot? I thought heat was the worst enemy...

So I found a fan that fit ontop one of the segments, and have just been drying via air blowing down over them..


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: discman1]
    #3293696 - 10/29/04 02:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Jesus Scat. I don't even want to know what your going to do with all those. Thanks for the info guys.
One thng though, you say that it doesn't matter if you shock it or not but shocking is used to initiate pinning, right? So wouldn't it be benificial to shock but only right before you put it into the fruiting chamber? Or, is shocking really not that important?


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3294546 - 10/29/04 06:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

shocking casings isn't very important. your right that it would only be beneficial to shock the casing after it colonized to initiate pinning, shocking the cake then putting it in a casing would cuase pinning too soon before full colonization of the casing layer.


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: fresh313]
    #3294718 - 10/29/04 07:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Cool, thanks.


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Re: Question about the best way to dunk a casing. [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3296300 - 10/30/04 06:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Like he said, unimportant. And Brazils have been the easiest strain to fruit that I've grown so far. My closets stay pretty warm and most strains have trouble. You can see brazils rock though :smile:

Yes I use the dehydrator. Low heats not a problem when drying. No one could tell the difference from when I fan + desiccant dried to when I switched to heat. Best to use them with a fan and keep them under 100 degrees.

Zero..I like to have 2 of my dehydrators full at all times :wink: Thats all rye too..I don't do straw or poo. Though I recently had some decent straw results.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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