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 tbyte
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 Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.  [Re: hyphae]
#3311998 - 11/03/04 07:36 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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What happens if your casing mix is not pasurized/sterilized?
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 derx
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: tbyte]
#3312744 - 11/03/04 11:34 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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your casing will contaminate
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: derx]
#3312860 - 11/03/04 12:46 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
derx said:
your casing will contaminate
your casing MAY contaminate
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hyphae
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: scatmanrav]
#3314386 - 11/03/04 08:22 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
scatmanrav said:
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derx said:
your casing will contaminate
your casing MAY contaminate
Chances are in the contams favor  never a good thing 
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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal 
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: hyphae]
#3315876 - 11/04/04 01:28 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Very informative!!!I'll keep this in my favorites. many thanks!!
P.S. here's yer five shrooms!!
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take me to heaven..
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through it I'll fly...
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: hyphae]
#3317803 - 11/04/04 08:04 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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hyphae said:
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scatmanrav said:
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derx said:
your casing will contaminate
your casing MAY contaminate
Chances are in the contams favor never a good thing
Very true! I always sterilize. Some people do with success though..
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AhronZombi
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: tbyte]
#3318547 - 11/04/04 12:28 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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try microwaved , thats what i like to do to casing
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: AhronZombi]
#3324026 - 11/05/04 07:31 PM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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Very greatful, will help me with my first caseing.
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Wow, those are some fat ass stems.
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: GordoSmith]
#3326662 - 11/06/04 10:58 AM (18 years, 29 days ago) |
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=D
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: police]
#3331470 - 11/08/04 06:37 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Amazing, glad i read this , it'll defiently help me when I decide to start casing which i think i just might do! Good stuff.
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: hyphae]
#3342818 - 11/11/04 01:55 AM (18 years, 24 days ago) |
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How does this look???
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hyphae
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: cisole]
#3343613 - 11/11/04 05:15 AM (18 years, 24 days ago) |
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cisole said:
How does this look???
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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: hyphae]  1
#3347475 - 11/12/04 12:31 AM (18 years, 23 days ago) |
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You say that 74-77 is the optimal temp for pinning/fruiting.... what is the optimal RH inside the chamber?
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Anno
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: Gr8fulJ420] 1
#3348022 - 11/12/04 02:35 AM (18 years, 23 days ago) |
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before and during pinning: 95-100%.
After pinning: ~90%-
90-95% throughout the cycle also works reasonably well.
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: Anno]
#3363564 - 11/15/04 08:08 PM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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OK this really clears some stuff up, but I have a few questions.
1. what is "patching"?
2. After you crumble and let sit for a day, you then make a layer in a clean container, but do you put anything for a bottom layer like some of the casing teks?if so what?
3. I am going to use a dual chamber tank made from a 10gal tank, and once i see the myc comming through(check after 3 days right?) I put it in the terrarium, and then what do I need to do? just fan it 3-6times daily and mist after the fanning?to the "near saturation" point?
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hyphae
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: Bdon]
#3363756 - 11/15/04 08:52 PM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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1. Patching is simply a light covering of casing mix to slow the pinning in that area until the majority of the myc can catch up. This is nice because it keeps the early volunteers (pins maturing into mature shrooms) from stealing all the energy from the initial pinset.
2. You can let it sit and recover for a day or not thats sometimes just a personal preference. I do not place anything in the trays first just substrate and a casing mix.
#3 DO NOT bring your moisture level to "near saturation" all at once do this over a period of several mistings (very important). Once the myc pokes through your casings should be at optimal moisture level so you can stop misting and let nature do it's thing (setting pins). Once pins are set then mist can resume. GL
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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: hyphae]
#3363988 - 11/15/04 09:48 PM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hyphae your a madman 
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"I have seen these shrooms enlighten the worthy and turn the unworthy into fools. So I figured that the shrooms would eventually take care of themselves. The shrooms will be the judge, ultimately."
- Robert McPherson ~ Professor Fanaticus
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: Phynatikus]
#3364719 - 11/16/04 12:29 AM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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great, so how do I know when then pins are ready to mature? Do they just start getting fatter?
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recalcitrant
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: Bdon]
#3364761 - 11/16/04 12:38 AM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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Once you have pins, it's not very long before you've got big fuckers ready to pick. If you can have enough patience to wait for those fucking sponsors to ship you a syringe, if you can wait for those damn spores to start making some mycelium, if you can wait for those jars to (FINALLY!) fully colonize, you can surely wait for pins to mature.
But if, after a couple days, they are obviously not growing, they have aborted.
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hyphae
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Re: Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. [Re: Bdon]
#3365930 - 11/16/04 04:17 AM (18 years, 19 days ago) |
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Bdon said:
great, so how do I know when then pins are ready to mature? Do they just start getting fatter?
Pins are set when you see plenty of redheads on your pins. You can then continue with light indirect misting, I recommend this always as mushrooms require ALOT of water and they will absorb it however they see fit so I give most of this moisture via the casing which really saves on the substrate and keeps shrinkage to a minimum allowing better flushes repeatedly IME. GL
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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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