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Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location
    #3287276 - 10/28/04 12:02 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A practicing shaman friend sent me something about Bi-location and said it is often the most overlooked and unpracticed aspect of shamanism.

What do any of you or ANYONE know about doing it?

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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3287299 - 10/28/04 12:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, during a shamanic ritual a shaman sends his "soul" on a journey to find the root of a patient's illness while his body stays there continuing the ritual. Sort of like an OOBE while concious. Is that what he refers to?


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3287344 - 10/28/04 12:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Hue,

I was just typing a reply and got the answer I was after myself. (that happens a lot after I put a question or something out there to look at in front of me.

Never mind......... while the post is up, if anyone wants to talk about bi-location, it's here.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3287709 - 10/28/04 01:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

wheres the link? i do not see it.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3287722 - 10/28/04 01:54 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There is no link. I was just referencing something that mentioned shamans using bi-location and wondered if any here did. I had a nother friend, throwing the word bi-location around and thought it meant something else.

I understand the shaman use of it if its as hue says.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3288128 - 10/28/04 06:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Two things that most if not all shamanic tribes across the world hold in commmon is the use of entheogens and the affiliation with 'astral travel'. We acknowledge that a person has a physical body and the astral self, or light body, soul. Usually it's with taking an entheogen that these two can seperate. As Huehue said, the shaman's 'soul' might travel to find the root of a patient's illness, but it can also be for other purposes, seeking other visions. So it is similar to OOBE, but can be induced and the shaman can have control over the journey. I have heard some ideas that say bi-location might even have something to do with the creation of the mysterious Nazca Lines in Peru...


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3288402 - 10/28/04 10:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The travel into the unseen realm.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Tag_Number]
    #3288407 - 10/28/04 10:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Tag_Number]
    #3288444 - 10/28/04 10:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

on salvia with split attention, or roving attention, I find it takes no effort to have more than one complete visual(/sensory) field operating - the net effect is to find the dimension lived in is bigger, more roomy or expanded.
one just allows that it is so and continues.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3289229 - 10/28/04 02:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

hum, i kinda thought of the "third eye" last night, when 2 eyes open, the whole is an eye, and you focus is the pupil of your "third eye"
then i thought of the state of "no focus" and i wonderd OBE? funny how i connect it to this post :P thanks for sharing :wink:


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Gomp]
    #3289271 - 10/28/04 02:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well bi location is just what it sounds like, being in two places at once, usually it refers to some form of OBE, specifically those where you can look down at your own unconcious body...


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3289527 - 10/28/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Bi- means your body is conscious and conscious somewhere else at the same time.

They should call it bi-consciousness location.

The other friend had ideas that the OB conscious could create a hologram projection of the self that could also interact with the physical at the same tome the orginal body was conscious and interactive in another location.

I was just wondering if anyone had anything on that, it's a far out idea. Maybe in the future, who knows??????????????


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3289766 - 10/28/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ah interesting so your actually refering more to the creation of a 'double' as described by carlos castaneda. That is WAY beyond my knowledge, and that is some serious power if you can do it.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3289823 - 10/28/04 04:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, my friend was and got me curious. Ever other person on spiritual/meta physicsa boards are doing the shamanic version of it.

He's talking about being able to create a holograph projection of the self from the OB state while the physical body is also conscious and active where it is.

Wouldn't that be fucking cool? Talk about teleconferencing. The corporate world will never be the same again.LOL We first have to figure out how WE ARE creating them with these bodies, before we can do it from our flying bodies.

Maybe will pick up some clues if we figure out how we use our flying bodies??????

Okay everyone- more holograph talk please please please!!!!!!!! I need a new toy to play with.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3289937 - 10/28/04 05:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

""our flying bodies?????? ""

dunno, but this got me again thinking of the lack of skeleton i find when lucid :P is our skeleton dead like rock? a bit of topic to some, but i just see this intriguing aspect of this.
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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3289953 - 10/28/04 05:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, one could say god is multi-locating into our seperate consciousnesses (and not just us here humans) :smile:

The only thing is that these fragmented consciousnesses are each hooked to a physical memory bank and reactional programs and unique input, so relative to 'us' (on a dual level), 'we' would never see it.

Subtle bi-location of single conscious beings happens all the time. Consciousness isn't just isolated in the physical. When you're in your "head" thinking of something, often elaborate and in pictures, while simulntaneously interacting in "reality" (heh), this is bi-location.

Now affecting or sensing the consensual reality in seperate "locations" so to speak, what you're referring to, is a different story :smile:. Something to overcome before a consciousness would be able to do this is the illusion of linear time, which makes it seem logical that a single point of awareness would not be able to exist in two seperate spatial locations in one moment of time. Either that, or a sort of rapid oscillation between the two points giving rise to the simultaneous perception of both.

It would definitely be something neat to practice :laugh:


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3289956 - 10/28/04 05:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Now I got all these ideas going through my head. LOL

What if we already are doing it and don't have the software developed just for the ability to realise it???????

I thought of that when I was thinking about viaggios ego/god/perphial others post. There are these theories, that we have tons of selfs plitting off on all kinds of reality branches to meet the "personal realities of every individual". Thats a mind fuck in itself.

Anyway, I got this idea for something to practice that may be a part of programming the soft ware. Some of us can already mental multi task and don't even realise we are doing that.

Spend 15 minutes a day listening to music, watching a TV show and reading a book all at the same time and then review your comprehension of the 3. If you can develop the ability to be comprehensive of all stimuli at the same time, that would be a start for getting better at bi consciousness.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3289973 - 10/28/04 05:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Another good exercise is look in one spot while mentally focusing on two objects on the opposite sides of your vision.

Reaaaallly focus :smile:

Try to make sure one doesn't have more of a focal precedent than the other. It shouldn't be like two parts of the picture, but rather two seperate pictures altogether :smile:

Now close your eyes and keep your focus still on these two objects simultaneously (imagining them) while trying to become aware to their exact spatial position infront of you.

Never really gave this a thorough practice, but maybe I'll try again :cool:


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: deff]
    #3290023 - 10/28/04 05:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

we double posted def,

Yes, you're description of bi-location is what I said lots are able to do as well as see into the etheric bodies of others like the shamans need to to diagnose for healing.

these same people have pretty much moved out of linear time consciousness too, so I don't see that as an obstacle to over come though it is one initially for anyone developing the new software. (good point too)

Thanks for playing and adding def, keep it comin as it comes.

Gomp, your flying body is the one YOU are writing from dude, talk about space splat.LOL

Seriously, its like the one you use in lucid dream time and when you trip out with or without drugs, the one that can go places in the intangible realms. It's a body of consciousness that freely percieves and comprehends beyond the physical appearant and physical sensory perceptors.


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Re: Question for practicing Shamans here on bi-location [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3290053 - 10/28/04 05:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't just mean theorizing that linear time is a complex biological hoax, but actually transferring conscious awareness unconfined to the bounds of linear time transition.

Like how you can move in the three spatial dimensions now, except including a fourth of time.

Btw- I suggest you try the sacred fungus once :cool:


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