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Offlineantioch
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Question about casing..
    #3280579 - 10/26/04 07:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been reading up and decided on a Tek that I'm going to follow for my first grow. After I inoculate my jars and they're a full cake, can I  put them into a terrarium and 'case' them (I'm assuming this means to plant them into your compost, mixture, or whatever). If so, wouldn't pins that started to come out from the side of the cake be underground and whatnot? Thanks for your guys help. :smile:

Also, here's a little animation that I guess could be used as an example of what I'm trying to achieve: 


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: antioch]
    #3280645 - 10/26/04 07:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I actually think it is when you crumble yours cakes so the shrooms have more surface area to grow on. More surface area = more shrooms. I've never done it before though so I'm not completely sure if I got it right.


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: blkhole]
    #3280665 - 10/26/04 07:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Casing has a better water delivery.  I think cakes have about the same surface area if you think about it.  But cakes don't have as good water delivery system.

And of course, you can case whole grains.  Something that's really not a good idea to make cakes out of.  There's going to be larger amount of nutes available from whole grains compared to verm diluted cakes.

And mushie on casing grows up evenly...  cakes...  well, they go in every which directions and end up taking a lot more space. :wink:

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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: Sam1912]
    #3280717 - 10/26/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think cakes have about the same surface area if you think about it.




Actually, when its broken up, the stuff on the inside of the cake can then grow shrooms too. When it's in the middle of the cake, nothing can grow out of it. At least it makes sense to me...


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: blkhole]
    #3280785 - 10/26/04 08:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

But really.. think about the surface area that can grow from. That's the area exposed. I suppose you can really thin out your substrate, but it's not the surface area that feeds the shrooms. It's the entire network. I don't know.. maybe I'll actually measure it out one day...

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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: Sam1912]
    #3280807 - 10/26/04 08:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

okay.. just for shits and giggles, I measured my cake and casing. My casing is 1.5" thick from 3 cakes..

casing has 494 sq cm and cake has 94.4 sq cm. So it compares to 494 sq cm to 283.2. Almost double the surface area. Yup, you are right. Casing does have a helluva lot more surface area.

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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: Sam1912]
    #3280819 - 10/26/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yup, you are right. Casing does have a hellavu lot more surface area.




Cool, and I've never even grown before.

Could you try comparing your wieghts from the casing to cakes. I want to see how many more, if any, mushrooms grow out of it. I would do it myself, but I can't grow right now. Anyway, this will help me know if I should just skip straight to casing for my first grow


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: blkhole]
    #3280861 - 10/26/04 08:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Umm ok, so do I crush up the cakes into the casing mixture, plant them in there, or what? haha :confused:

EDIT: oorrr do I just try and inoculate the casing..?


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: antioch]
    #3280903 - 10/26/04 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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antioch said:
Umm ok, so do I crush up the cakes into the casing mixture, plant them in there, or what? haha :confused:

EDIT: oorrr do I just try and inoculate the casing..?


Look in the growers guides section. There are a ton of TEK's for casing. Most of what I read says that even though it does increase surface area the primary benefit that increases yeild is the additional water available to the mycelium from the casing.


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: Tripster]
    #3281319 - 10/26/04 09:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ah alright, I understand how to case using the cakes now guys! Thanks for your help :smile:


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: antioch]
    #3282233 - 10/27/04 01:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm probably not a very good person to compare weights right now... I've definitely like cakes better and tend to give them more attention. I'm sure the casings will yield more in the long run. My BU is poorly made. I packed them and they took a long time colonizing and fruiting...

cakes avg 140g GT, 45g BU
3 cake casings avg 420g GT, still growing BU
1 cake casing 110g GT, 60g BU.

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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: Sam1912]
    #3285861 - 10/27/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry but what are GT and BU?


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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: blkhole]
    #3285866 - 10/27/04 07:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

GT is golden teacher.
Bu if burma. Strain abbreviations.

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Re: Question about casing.. [Re: Sam1912]
    #3290754 - 10/28/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, I thought it was a measurement. But I guess it's not good to compare using your batches, the wieghts are all over the place.


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