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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: WhiteRussian]
    #3279003 - 10/26/04 10:34 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Is it, that you somehow want to describe quality with numbers ?
Your quality here is existance. A comb and a spoon both do not more or less exist for themselves, as they exist together, so 1 + 1 = 1...
If you add all that exists together, you again get the 'one' as a supertranscendental number - what describes 'one for all' or something like that :grin:


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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #3279155 - 10/26/04 11:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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BlueCoyote said:
Is it, that you somehow want to describe quality with numbers ?
Your quality here is existance. A comb and a spoon both do not more or less exist for themselves, as they exist together, so 1 + 1 = 1...
If you add all that exists together, you again get the 'one' as a supertranscendental number - what describes 'one for all' or something like that :grin:




i am we- we are all united as one

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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: trick]
    #3279788 - 10/26/04 02:12 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

hehe, yep thats what I mean :smile:


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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: WhiteRussian]
    #3280651 - 10/26/04 05:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

In my view, your 1=1 theory is one stage in the path of awareness.  This is taught in Zen as a circle.

0 degrees: 1+2=3 (attachment to name and form)

90 degrees: 0=1, 1=0 (attachment to thinking, form is emptiness, emptiness is form)

180 degrees: 1000x0=0, 1x0=0 (attachment to emptiness. no form, no emptiness)

270 degrees: 3x3=9, 1000x100=1000x9 (attachment to freedom, freedom form, freedom emptiness.  Magical powers, "ooooooooooooohh, aaaaaaaaaahh")

360 degrees: 3x3=9 (nonattachment thinking, form is form, emptiness is emptiness, Ultimate enlightenment.  Only the truth is seen.  At this point, the circle disappears)

Peace :smile:

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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #3280713 - 10/26/04 05:49 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

""360 degrees: 3x3=9 (nonattachment thinking, form is form, emptiness is emptiness, Ultimate enlightenment. Only the truth is seen. At this point, the circle disappears) ""
dude.. cool  :thumbup:

and if we follow language blindly. (haha?)
I am me, and to you reading this i alsow am you, so you are you = me?
the thought has many stands if i say icecream is bad, am i saying icecrem is good?  if so, why? and how?


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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: Gomp]
    #3280776 - 10/26/04 06:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Good and bad are simply perceptions of opinion.  This is attachment to thinking. 90 degrees.  I find on the peak of high dose acid trips, I attain a state resting somewhere around 180 degrees.  You know the "whats the point" trip?  If youve had one, you know what I mean :wink:

Peace :smile:

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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #3280941 - 10/26/04 06:50 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yes indeed, i remember that feeling
im thinking "the point is the point"

hum.. this is weird, I'm to humble to say i feel I'm "stuck" on the 360 degrees wive but i feel i am.. h?h?h? "Ultimate" sound wierd?


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Re: My 1=1 Theory [Re: Gomp]
    #3281154 - 10/26/04 07:27 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Just an added note.  I feel that psychedelics can only get the circle spinning.  Hitting a wall around 90 degrees.  The next steps come from hardcore Zen practice.  I feel that most here at the shroomery (I cant speak for anyone however) have attained the first steps to enlightenment at 90 degrees.  Psychedelics really open this up.  All of what I speak has to do with Zen practice.  This is purely my view of everything.

Peace :smile:

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