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Offlineonetime
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this must end
    #3274645 - 10/25/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There's an artist, Nathalia Edenmont, who kills cats,
mice, doves, RABBITS, and other animals, mutilates
their bodies, and then takes their photographs. She's
on exhibit, among other places, at the Wetterling
Gallery in Sweden. She has taken the top halves of
five white mice and made them into finger puppets. She
beat a cat to death with a stick. And this is called
art. This is not only inhumane, but morally
reprehensible.

Link to samples of the exhibit (warning! offensive
content):
http://www.wetterlinggallery.com/archive/nathalia/nathalia_main.htm
The Wetterling Gallery's Justification of her work:
http://www.wetterlinggallery.com/newsletter/newsletter.htm

*****Link to the petition against her:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/853089392


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OfflineSilven
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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3274656 - 10/25/04 10:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's fucking sick.

I want to smash her in the head with a hammer and take a picture. Lets see all her loyal followers support that shit.

- Silven


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1) Scorpios are the most highly sexed of all the signs of the zodiac.
2) Scorpios are prone to excesses: booze, drugs, sex, bad puns, etc.
They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
their capacity for total lust & sexual abberation.
3) Scorpios possess great intellectual curiosity & creative talent. They
think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
penny of it.

What do you bring to the table?


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InvisibleMOTH
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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3274661 - 10/25/04 10:51 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Terrible.  :sad:


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Offlineagr8fulchick
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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3274662 - 10/25/04 10:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not even going to look at the links, but people who intentionally hurt animals for no good reason (I'd consider hunting for food a good reason) should be killed. End of story.


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InvisibleJonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3274673 - 10/25/04 10:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

who gives a shit.

thousands of people die everyday in horrible horrible ways. you can't stop it so shut up and play your PS2...

Then go vote for christs sake. People are doomed.


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OfflineMAGnum
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Re: this must end [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3274685 - 10/25/04 11:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I agree.  Since we are all made of the same thing and interconnected (same basic stuff), you hurt yourself when you hurt something else because the separation between you (ego) and the subject doesn't really exsist.

Thus it is wrong to hurt something else for no reason because you are truly hurting yourself.

That is my objective theory of morals I came up with recently :smile:  I better run to S+P now.


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OfflineSilven
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Re: this must end [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #3274686 - 10/25/04 11:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm guessing you're American? :smirk:


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Born: 10/31/83, which makes me a Scorpio.

1) Scorpios are the most highly sexed of all the signs of the zodiac.
2) Scorpios are prone to excesses: booze, drugs, sex, bad puns, etc.
They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
their capacity for total lust & sexual abberation.
3) Scorpios possess great intellectual curiosity & creative talent. They
think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
penny of it.

What do you bring to the table?


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InvisibleJonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: this must end [Re: MAGnum]
    #3274693 - 10/25/04 11:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MAGnum said:
I agree.  Since we are all made of the same thing and interconnected (same basic stuff), you hurt yourself when you hurt something else because the separation between you (ego) and the subject doesn't really exsist.

Thus it is wrong to hurt something else for no reason because you are truly hurting yourself.

That is my objective theory of morals I came up with recently :smile:  I better run to S+P now.




That's a fun little theory but it really doesn't mean a damn thing to the people who are torturing animals, murdering people, and destroying the planet. And according to your theory it doesn't matter what you think in your current consious state because wouldnt your theory mean that you and the scumfucks of the world are one in the same?


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InvisibleJonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: this must end [Re: Silven]
    #3274713 - 10/25/04 11:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm guessing you think it matters and you probably think you're special too.

well it doesn't, and you're not.

people are people all over the world, and all over the world is death, destruction, and misery created by people. And the kicker is is that there's nothing you can do to stop it.


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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3274734 - 10/25/04 11:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not defending or trying to glorify the killing of animals.

But you said:
Quote:


She
beat a cat to death with a stick. And this is called
art.





The website's introduction thing says:
Quote:


She has killed the animals in as humane a way as possible.




I'd imagine beating an animal to death with a stick isn't considered humane in Sweden.


I'm also curious as to what is thought of having an online petition against it. An art gallery in Sweden, I'd imagine, could care less about what citizens of other countries think, so long as it's not officials/ambassadors/presidents of other countries. I'd imagine that the art gallery cares first and foremost what their citizens think, since some of their grant money, if they operate even remotely the same as the US with public funding, comes from the people. Therefore it'd make the biggest impact if EU residents would sign the petition, especially EU residents that stand a chance of even going, i.e. that live fairly close to the museum.


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OfflineMAGnum
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Re: this must end [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #3274736 - 10/25/04 11:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

JonnyOnTheSpot said:
wouldnt your theory mean that you and the scumfucks of the world are one in the same?




Yes, all matter is made of the same basic stuff, actually, everything is made of energy. What those scumfucks are is the universe causing turmoil unto itself. Matter causing pain upon other matter is matter inflicting pain upon itself because there really is no separation

The scumfucks of the world and a baby kitten are inseperable. If a scumfuck hurts the kitten, the scumfuck hurts itself on a level which the dilusion of self (ego) blinds the scumfuck to.

Quote:

people are people all over the world, and all over the world is death, destruction, and misery created by people. And the kicker is is that there's nothing you can do to stop it.




That is simply pessimisticly biased and untrue.


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OfflineMAGnum
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Re: this must end [Re: MAGnum]
    #3274744 - 10/25/04 11:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, I went to one of those links and I believe that this artist is a cunt.


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Re: this must end [Re: MAGnum]
    #3274924 - 10/25/04 12:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There are better causes to be had..... if you want to join a cause or something, do it in your own community, not sweden.


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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3275213 - 10/25/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

haha i got a 1 shroom rating for my coments in this thread.

sorry to burst bubbles and inject a healthy dose of reality into this thread about how trivial this persons actions are compared to whats going on in the world....

heres what i meant to say:  That person should be beaten and shot in the head! i'd love to smash her skull to pieces that evil fucker!  :rolleyes:


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OfflineHenry_Halleur
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Re: this must end [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #3275362 - 10/25/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

JonnyOnTheSpot said:
haha i got a 1 shroom rating for my coments in this thread.

sorry to burst bubbles and inject a healthy dose of reality into this thread about how trivial this persons actions are compared to whats going on in the world....






i agree with you if you say, that there are worse things in the world than this strange person murdering animals. are all of you vegetarians/ wearing no leather/ using no animal products at all? if not, you quietly agree with thousands of animals being "murdered" everyday. i dont say that this is bad (the usage of animalproducts), i just wonder why you all talk about this "artist" like you would talk about the devil himself.

i dont agree with you if you say that it is impossible to change the world. i get mad if you say that you're injecting "a healthy dose of reality" by telling that.


sorry for my bad english. H_H


Edited by Henry_Halleur (10/25/04 03:15 PM)


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Offlinequarkyquasar
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Re: this must end [Re: Henry_Halleur]
    #3275505 - 10/25/04 03:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I hate to sound mean but...how is it much different than a rendering plant or slaughter house?
Just cause they are cute and fluffy?
What about the fur trade?
Leather trade?
Glue, feather containing products, even vitamins and supplements?
Is art less worthy than the above?
Just to make my stance though..I don't support her. Just playing devils advocate.


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Re: this must end [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #3275546 - 10/25/04 04:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i dont like hger art
but im not gonna try and stop it
also i was pretty afraid to click that link
i thought it was gonna be like guts splatered on a canvase
that wasnt to bad


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Re: this must end [Re: onetime]
    #3275560 - 10/25/04 04:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I dont see why anyone would kill animals to make art... but than again you cant stop it though.


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Re: this must end [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3275566 - 10/25/04 04:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

theres worse stuff out there is all im saying


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Re: this must end [Re: notapillow]
    #3275575 - 10/25/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

very true.


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