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 Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 
#3274627 - 10/25/04 08:36 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Carter Says Bush Exploited Sept. 11 Attacks
Sun Oct 24, 9:57 PM ET
Politics - Reuters
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...paign_carter_dc
LONDON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) has exploited the Sept. 11 attacks for political gain, former president Jimmy Carter said in an interview published on Monday.
Asked in an interview with Britain's Guardian newspaper why U.S. polls were split over the war in Iraq (news - web sites), the former Democrat president said:
"I think the basic reason is that our country suffered, in 9/11, a terrible and shocking attack ... and George Bush (news - web sites) has been adroit at exploiting that attack and he has elevated himself, in the consciousness of many Americans, to a heroic commander-in-chief, fighting a global threat against America."
"He's repeatedly played that card, and to some degree quite successfully. I think that success has dissipated," he added.
"I don't know if it's dissipating fast enough to affect the election."
The Nobel Peace Prize winner described the invasion of Iraq by U.S.-led forces as "unwarranted" and "a completely unjust adventure based on misleading statements."
Carter also accused Bush of neglecting the nuclear non-proliferation work carried out by his predecessors.
"All of those long, tedious negotiations that were done by Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, (Richard) Nixon and me and (Ronald) Reagan to control the spread of nuclear weapons have been abandoned by Bush," he said.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: TheDude]
#3274636 - 10/25/04 08:43 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bush exploiting peoples fear for votes? Those crazy Europeans will say anything.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: FrankieN]
#3274719 - 10/25/04 09:13 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jimmy Carter has a lot of credibility on nuclear proliferation. He met with the North Koreans during the Clinton Administration and funneled money to Kim Il Sung. I would love to see a reporter tear him a new asshole, but don't expect that from the Guardian. I think it is funny that people still quote Jimmy Carter, or try to attach any relevance or importance to anything he has to say.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: JesusChrist]
#3274721 - 10/25/04 09:16 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it is funny that people still quote Jimmy Carter, or try to attach any relevance or importance to anything he has to say.
i think the same thing about bush. It's mind boggling isn't it?
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Well if jimmy carter said it!!!
Lets just pray he gets alzheimers soon.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Spongerock]
#3274920 - 10/25/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jimmy Carter is far from alone on this one
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 Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: ekomstop]
#5437340 - 03/24/06 06:58 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Frankie _ I agree, Europeans havent evolved intelijent enough. Bush hates terrorists like I do and he kill those Iraqi scum and got them back for 911 .
EDIT : *(It seems my humour is a little to dry for some north americans, I'm just messin wid ya . I am joking at the crazy fools who actually beleive bush.
Hee hee its crazy that people can think I'm serious haha !)*
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: FrankieN]
#5437407 - 03/24/06 07:28 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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> Those crazy Europeans will say anything.
Carter was a US president, not an European.
> I think it is funny that people still quote Jimmy Carter, or try to attach any relevance or importance to anything he has to say.
He was one of the worst presidents we have had in my lifetime, but by far the best ex-president we have had in my lifetime. It is sad that some cannot see past his presidency... unlike our current leaders, Jimmy Carter is a good and decent person.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Mirth]
#5438404 - 03/24/06 01:42 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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"Bush hates terrorists like I do and he kill those Iraqi scum and got them back for 911" 
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Mirth]
#5438791 - 03/24/06 03:52 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
Mirth said:
Bush hates terrorists like I do and he kill those Iraqi scum and got them back for 911 .
You need to pull your head out of Bushes ass.
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.
Nothing at all.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Seuss]
#5438795 - 03/24/06 03:54 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
Seuss said:
> Those crazy Europeans will say anything.
Carter was a US president, not an European.
> I think it is funny that people still quote Jimmy Carter, or try to attach any relevance or importance to anything he has to say.
He was one of the worst presidents we have had in my lifetime, but by far the best ex-president we have had in my lifetime. It is sad that some cannot see past his presidency... unlike our current leaders, Jimmy Carter is a good and decent person.
What made Jimmy the worst president was precisely what differentiates him from the current president, a complete inability to act. His response to the Iran hostage taking was probably the single greatest element encouraging these nutlogs into believing we were pussies who would never fight back.
As to his being the best ex-president I beg to differ. Number 1. Until him there was an unspoken rule that ex-presidents don't slam current presidents. Your out. You either lost or your time was up. Move on. There's no shortage of people to blast the sitting president. There never has been. To have an ex-president adding to the din is a foreign policy horror. Add to that the fact that he is so bitter about being judged a joke while in office his every utterance is sour grapes. Did you hear Bush bashing Clinton? Johnson, Nixon? Eisenhower, Kennedy? No. Carter has opened a very bad can of worms. Number 2. Habitat for Humanity is a fucking extortionate joke. Those morons are barely qualified to build an igloo with pre-cut pieces of ice and they demand lots from developers as prerequisites for project approval. They are no better than a South Bronx "coalition". Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. He is and was so bad he made Reagan look good.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Seuss]
#5438797 - 03/24/06 03:55 PM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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That didn't take long, did it?
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: zappaisgod]
#5440157 - 03/25/06 01:03 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Wow, what the hell. Hey, I am from Georgia, Carter is a good guy. Hes just a little peace loving old man, go easy on him.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: zappaisgod]
#5440212 - 03/25/06 02:07 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
zappaisgod said:
Until him there was an unspoken rule that ex-presidents don't slam current presidents.
"Nixon is a shifty-eyed goddamn liar. . . . .He's one of the few in the history of this country to run for high office talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time and lying out of both sides" -- Harry S Truman
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Silversoul]
#5440241 - 03/25/06 02:50 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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This isn't really anything new.
Vietnam was started because of an attack on our ships, except it was a fake attack, never happened.
War with Spain started because they blew up our ship near Cuba, except the ship blew up because of a mechanical failure.
Now, when it comes to WWII, Japanese attacked us first, so the President rallied the country and got into the war. The same goes for 9/11.
People said and are still saying that the President allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. If that pres did that, then our current president probably did the same exact thing.
And no, the planes were not fake. If the world can find out about our secret prisons, they can probably find out that the attacks were staged. They weren't, they were just probably allowed to happen.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: downforpot]
#5440327 - 03/25/06 05:09 AM (18 years, 27 days ago) |
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This isn't really anything new.
Vietnam was started because of an attack on our ships, except it was a fake attack, never happened.
Answer: True, it was, and it led up to a great mishap of a war that was continually argued rightful by the administration although opposed by most of the world, as is Iraq's current situation.
War with Spain started because they blew up our ship near Cuba, except the ship blew up because of a mechanical failure.
Answer: Never heard of this, but could be true.
Now, when it comes to WWII, Japanese attacked us first, so the President rallied the country and got into the war. The same goes for 9/11.
The difference is that when were attacked in Pearl Harbor there was no attacking a different country other than Japan like we attacked Iraq although they had nothing to do with it, and the day after 9/11 Bush was already figuring out ways to exploit it and blame it on Iraq.
People said and are still saying that the President allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. If that pres did that, then our current president probably did the same exact thing.
Answer: No, probably not, there is no reason to correlate those two things. I don't know all that much about Pearl Harbor but I do know 9/11 was allowed by the Bush Administration.
And no, the planes were not fake. If the world can find out about our secret prisons, they can probably find out that the attacks were staged. They weren't, they were just probably allowed to happen.
Answer: The conspiracy is not that all the planes were fake, it's that the person who attacked us were not who the government told us they were. And a lot of people do believe 9/11 was staged, don't go saying the world hasn't noticed anything fishy about it. It just worked out so perfectly for Bush, and he did so, so many things that would lead you to believe he really wanted 9/11 and it helped it a lot.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: JesusChrist]
#5440794 - 03/25/06 11:53 AM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
Jimmy Carter has a lot of credibility on nuclear proliferation. He met with the North Koreans during the Clinton Administration and funneled money to Kim Il Sung.
source?
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: beatnicknick]
#5440913 - 03/25/06 12:34 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
beatnicknick said:
This isn't really anything new.
Vietnam was started because of an attack on our ships, except it was a fake attack, never happened.
Answer: True, it was, and it led up to a great mishap of a war that was continually argued rightful by the administration although opposed by most of the world, as is Iraq's current situation.
War with Spain started because they blew up our ship near Cuba, except the ship blew up because of a mechanical failure.
Answer: Never heard of this, but could be true.
Now, when it comes to WWII, Japanese attacked us first, so the President rallied the country and got into the war. The same goes for 9/11.
The difference is that when were attacked in Pearl Harbor there was no attacking a different country other than Japan like we attacked Iraq although they had nothing to do with it, and the day after 9/11 Bush was already figuring out ways to exploit it and blame it on Iraq.
People said and are still saying that the President allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. If that pres did that, then our current president probably did the same exact thing.
Answer: No, probably not, there is no reason to correlate those two things. I don't know all that much about Pearl Harbor but I do know 9/11 was allowed by the Bush Administration.
And no, the planes were not fake. If the world can find out about our secret prisons, they can probably find out that the attacks were staged. They weren't, they were just probably allowed to happen.
Answer: The conspiracy is not that all the planes were fake, it's that the person who attacked us were not who the government told us they were. And a lot of people do believe 9/11 was staged, don't go saying the world hasn't noticed anything fishy about it. It just worked out so perfectly for Bush, and he did so, so many things that would lead you to believe he really wanted 9/11 and it helped it a lot.
When did we start attacking Europe? Before or after Pearl Harbor?
People still say the pres allowed pearl harbor to happen to get into the war. It's a very easy way to gain support if your country is attacked and the people are behind you.
Any side can provide enough evidence to support their point. The conspiracy theorists provided some which doesn't really hold up. They take a puzzle, cut the piece to fit and it makes sense, to them. They are fucking luncatics, fuck them.
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Seuss]
#5441123 - 03/25/06 01:48 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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He was one of the worst presidents we have had in my lifetime,
Are you fucking kidding? Just this one statement alone makes him the BEST fucking president in the last 40 years:
Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."
-- President Jimmy Carter,
Message to Congress. August 2, 1977
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Re: Carter: Bush exploited 9/11 [Re: Mirth]
#5441129 - 03/25/06 01:50 PM (18 years, 26 days ago) |
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Bush hates terrorists like I do
And we all know what Bush did when his courage was tested on 9/11. He ran and hid in a fucking hole.
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