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Offlinelunaveggy
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first grow all contams?
    #3273425 - 10/25/04 12:15 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

bow wow wow y'all.

it seems that my entire set of first grow jars may be blown.
all tehse cakes exhibit bluing which I at first thought was bruising, but the blue is in places I've not touched.

as well as some of it is green on one cake.

dropping one on the floor whilst taking photographs did not help my disposition...fortunately that was the greenish looking one.

should I toss these all? (some are from diff angles)



















it's just frustrating to have put so much time and care into this to have to throw them all away.

guess I'll have to go all out with a HEPA and ultra sonic next time.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3273435 - 10/25/04 12:18 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thats comepletely natural bruising dont throw them away....

Soemtimes they just go bluish even if you didn't touch.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3273441 - 10/25/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

still look like bruising. It's gotta be the humidity. Looks awefully dry.

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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3273442 - 10/25/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

well if they are all fucked why not fruit them anyway just for the experience and fun of watching them grow. i cant tell from most of the pics if there are contamns or not sorry but it was fun wasnt it

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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3273449 - 10/25/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I was under the impression that they are all fine. Tips... dont drop cakes on the ground. Dont touch them with your bare hands, especially your fingernails. Guess where a tons of bacteria are breeding at???


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: derx]
    #3273518 - 10/25/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just looks like bruising to me.

I bet your humidity is too low.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3273544 - 10/25/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

looks like bruising to me..and kinda dry..


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: discman1]
    #3273548 - 10/25/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If they keep drying out or bruise, they won't be able to fight any infections... eventually you'll lose all your cakes. I really really really suggest you check and double check your humidity.

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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3273681 - 10/25/04 01:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Dunk'n roll those cakes.. and like everyone else said check the humidity. those are pretty dry looking


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3273721 - 10/25/04 01:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Sam1912 said:
still look like bruising. It's gotta be the humidity. Looks awefully dry.




They look fine, but a little dry. Since they haven't started pinning yet I say you dunk them.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: z@z.com]
    #3274378 - 10/25/04 07:02 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Dry and causing them to blue where you don't touch. Your still bruising them, just not with your fingers, with your dry air. Take better care of them babies! They like water!


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3274609 - 10/25/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

wow, really? that's so awesome!

I was going to pin them anyway just to get the conditions right for next time.

I sprayed them directly with water a few days ago. I don't know what to do for the humidity except get an ultrasonic humidifier, because this perilite just isn't working!


I'm not touching it in that picture, I haven't touched them at all, and dropping that one....well, shit happens :wink:

but thank you all so much for your professional medical opinions (hee hee) though I do think the one is lookin real green.....but maybe it;s intense blue from being dry?

anyway, I will check the faqs/forums for rolling and dunking.

hopefully they'll be ok till I get back from class!!!


Edited by lunaveggy (10/25/04 10:30 AM)


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3274674 - 10/25/04 10:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

When you check for green, look under white light. Incandescent light bulbs add a lot of yellow to them and make them look greenish.

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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3274717 - 10/25/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sam wrote:
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When you check for green, look under white light. Incandescent light bulbs add a lot of yellow to them and make them look greenish.




I had this problem and had a jar contam'd for nearly three days before I caught it. I was scared and had to clean my whole incubation chamber. I originally thought that the green spot was just my verm/BRF smashed against the glass and didn't think to use white light. When I finally used the light I'm using for lighting the fruiting chamber to examine my jar, I noted a definate green on the bottom of the jar.

Needless to say the jar was taken from the incubator.

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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: J4S0N]
    #3274755 - 10/25/04 11:34 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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J4S0N said:
Dunk'n roll those cakes.. and like everyone else said check the humidity.  those are pretty dry looking



without a doubt some good advice :thumbup:


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3274849 - 10/25/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

definitely looks like bruising, little on the dry side. I agree with the majority on this on. Dunk for about 18-24 hrs. then roll in vermiculite. Did that with all my first cakes (which were just as bruised as yours) and it worked out great. Aside from that, they look like good cakes, keep it up. :thumbup:


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: lunaveggy]
    #3275148 - 10/25/04 02:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

If your using perlite, i'd suggest 1" of perlite, and about 1/4" of water on the bottom. Also if you dunk and roll, the vermiculite should maintain a lot of the moisture in the cake. I've been through the same problem, im using perlite as well.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: J4S0N]
    #3275916 - 10/25/04 05:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

And if using perilite and cakes you should still be misting 2-3 times a day for proper water delivery.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: phantasm]
    #3275928 - 10/25/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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phantasm said:
well if they are all fucked why not fruit them anyway just for the experience and fun of watching them grow. i cant tell from most of the pics if there are contamns or not sorry but it was fun wasnt it

-mike





Horrible advice. You dont fuck around with contams. Growing them out will make more and more spores airborn, and harder to kill and track down for future grows. Also will ruin your future grows because the spores are all over the place.


Those cakes are fine. Just very dried out. You need to increase your humidity.


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Re: first grow all contams? [Re: Citric]
    #3276094 - 10/25/04 06:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Not to mention the spores causing respitory problems just exsisting in your house.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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