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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3285735 - 10/27/04 07:34 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

"I have seen first hand the evil that hedonistic drugs can do to a person. "

I have seen first hand the evil that hedonistic food can do to a person.

we must be protected by the government agains food alsow then?
just kidding :P


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3285764 - 10/27/04 07:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

""How does the war on drugs protect anyone? ""

it protect the people against drugs, against drugs?

protection is a egoistic action? yet the mother of all not-egoistic actions?


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3285777 - 10/27/04 07:41 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

But if they're already against them then they wouldn't use them in the first place :/


it's control wearing a mask of protection


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: deff]
    #3285802 - 10/27/04 07:45 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Protection should never include persecution.

Protection in the case of drugs would involve proper education, and this isn't like a drug user cliche. People are going to use drugs even if they are illegal. The "evil" you saw from their use probably occured while they were illegal, and thus this did nothing to stop it. Really, a hammer to the side of my head could be considered "evil", but rather than hunt down hammer owners, it is common sense to use them for nails.

We should shift focus from fear and prosecution to compassion and education.



How does the war on drugs protect anyone?




I believe dealers, smugglers, etc. should be prosecuted by the law. As for users, I believe they should be fined. A population needs to protected. It's the duty of a government. Drug laws are not perfect. Locking up addicts is not the solution. Legalizing what the addict is addicted to so he can pick it up along with the newspaper is not the solution either. I don't even believe psychedelics should be legalized either, and I am an advocate of the introspective wisdom that psychedelics can bring. I believe the Law serves a purpose to protect the masses.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: deff]
    #3285814 - 10/27/04 07:46 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

""But if they're already against them then they wouldn't use them in the first place :/""

but the are protected against other doing it..
might seem hole in the head, as we say in Norwegian ("helt h?l i hue")
but could be? :P


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3285820 - 10/27/04 07:48 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Gomp said:
"I have seen first hand the evil that hedonistic drugs can do to a person. "

I have seen first hand the evil that hedonistic food can do to a person.

we must be protected by the government agains food alsow then?
just kidding :P





Chowing down a Bacon Double Cheese Burger is a poor comparison to someone taking a hit of crack cocaine, or ripping up their veins with heroin. You don't fiscally hit rock bottom by eating at McDonald's. You don't catch hep B or HIV by eating at Burger King.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3285855 - 10/27/04 07:53 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

"A population needs to protected. It's the duty of a government."

The population IS the government. It's just people, not some external protective entity.

"Chowing down a Bacon Double Cheese Burger is a poor comparison to someone taking a hit of crack cocaine, or ripping up their veins with heroin. You don't fiscally hit rock bottom by eating at McDonald's. You don't catch hep B or HIV by eating at Burger King."

If drugs were regulated they would be both much cheaper and much cleaner. This would solve both of these problems.

And I wouldn't be so sure about catching Hep B at Burger King :smile:


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3285863 - 10/27/04 07:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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zahudulallah said:
Quote:

Gomp said:
"I have seen first hand the evil that hedonistic drugs can do to a person. "

I have seen first hand the evil that hedonistic food can do to a person.

we must be protected by the government agains food alsow then?
just kidding :P





Chowing down a Bacon Double Cheese Burger is a poor comparison to someone taking a hit of crack cocaine, or ripping up their veins with heroin. You don't fiscally hit rock bottom by eating at McDonald's. You don't catch hep B or HIV by eating at Burger King.




dude..  Patrick Deuel goes in for obsesity surgery
where was the government?

edit*
"Last month, Deuel took his  first steps"
is a poor comparison to?
heard of a drug capabel of removing the ability to walk? so that you after many years, can take your "first step" again? poor comparison hehe  :grin: :thumbup:


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: deff]
    #3285875 - 10/27/04 07:57 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Much cheaper as in more for your buck?  :rolleyes:

There are some stupid people out there who would be like lab rats in a food/dopamine stimulant experiment.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Frog]
    #3285893 - 10/27/04 08:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Frog said:

If you can use drugs without them interfering with your ability to have a successful life, go for it. I just haven't seen, yet, evidence of this possibility yet.




Quote:

Bill Hicks said:
See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favor. Go home tonight and take all of your records,tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs, man.




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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3285925 - 10/27/04 08:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Well, out there the govt. is paying for a stomach staple for a near 850 pound man.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3285936 - 10/27/04 08:07 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

exactly, when they instead should have prevented him from costing the gov near 850 pound by limitign his acsess to that hedonistic food wheer is the protection in fiksing an already happend erorr?

why is this different? if it is?


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3285946 - 10/27/04 08:10 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Apples and Oranges. You cannot possibly compare junk food to a mutated stimulant designed to work the shit out of your dopamine whilst destroying everything in its path.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3285973 - 10/27/04 08:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

why not?
Apples and Oranges is still fruit?


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3286020 - 10/27/04 08:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You know what I'm talking about.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3286036 - 10/27/04 08:24 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

if i knew what you are talking about or assumed it or whatever?

why would i then ask you?


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3286078 - 10/27/04 08:33 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You know what the phrase 'Apples to Oranges' generally means.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3286117 - 10/27/04 08:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I do?

well, i dont? pleas enlighten me?


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3286136 - 10/27/04 08:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

this is funny.

Zahudallah, read the bottom BTW in gomps signature disclaimer.


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Re: america does not understand desire [Re: Gomp]
    #3286148 - 10/27/04 08:47 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Well, it's a phrase commonly used people compare two entirely different scenarios


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