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Magnolia Fest Troubles.
#3271036 - 10/24/04 10:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is my post from magfest, maybe I can get advice on what my best option would be to do as I don't have any experience in shit like this. But as far as I know they never read me my rights or I didn't THINK they showed me their badges but friends confirmed that they did and I was just in salvia land. Anyway I"m in deep shit here so give me some advice.
Well fuck, friday I officially had the absolute craziest fucking thing to ever happen to me in my life, and I'm officially getting arrested. I don't know exactly the charges yet but I have a crazy fucking story to go with it. I have to go soon so I'm hoping someone here can explain exactly what happened. But basically I was at magfest on friday night, and before the drum circle started I decided to smoke some salvia with people. I took about 2 small hits, then 1 HUGE hit for an intense experience. As soon as it hits me like a fucking train 3 (or so, I don't remember) DEA (or some kind of special cops) grab me from behind where I'm sitting, pull me up out of my chair with their hands around my neck and shoulders and yell "POLICE", while 3eyedfish is right next to me and in the way they are like "GET OUT OF THE WAY", and apparently from what people tell me I basically went limp and they checked my pulse, but I guess I was still fine. Then they pushed me up against a car and searched me, got everything out of my pockets (a WHOLE bunch of shit, but mainly all legal botanicals ie blue lotus, salvia, kava kava, etc.). Then the guy who was arresting me had his face less then a foot away from mine the entire time, and you know how that can be on salvia, and I was on like a level 5 salvia trip. They kept asking me stuff like where I was from, and then stuff like how'd you get here and I told them once that I drove here, then about 10 seconds later they asked me again and I said that I left my car in live oak, then later I said something else that contradicted it because I was tripping on mush and just did that salvia. Then everytime I said something contradicting they would get up in my face and start yelling and cussing at me. They were purposely trying their hardest to fuck with my head. They asked what each thing in my pockets were and I explained what it was, and he was like - "Do you know salvia can KILL YOU" - and this was 1 guy like 6 inches from my face with a hemisphere or people around him laughing at shit the whole time. Then he was like "You know that you smoked salvia with me and all of us, and if we all die tommrow its your fault" and they said a whole bunch of shit to just try to flip me the fuck out. Then he made me get my friends I was with to match the story with, so I got them and kind of forgot to come back to them which REALLY pissed them off. By now the salvia is dieing down, and I'm shaking like a motherfucker tripping balls. They asked me if "I had ever been to jail.... before tonight" and kept saying shit like that to scare me. Then the salvia was gone and the guy got in my face like an inch away and was like "CUT THE BULLSHIT, YOU CALL ME SIR WHEN YOU TALK" and I ended up telling the full story, and they went and searched my car which THEY said it ended up clean but they cut me a break because I had a black CD case with a razor blade RIGHT on the center console with coke residue on it that my friends were doing on it and a baggie on the ground with a rolled up bill. So I don't know what the fuck happened there but they came back and said that all I had was "more legal bullshit" in the backseat. But anyway they let me go that night, called my parents (I gave them our other house numbner so they weren't there), and let me go and told me I'd have a court date. Didn't give me any papers or anything to sign. But I left magfest this morning - had a great time other then that - and my parents left about 10 messages on my phone flipping out and saying that theyre getting the shit tested in a lab (the only things I had that they'll see are weed( like some seeds and stems) and mushroom capsules 2.5 grams) And they said there are coming to arrest me as soon as they get teh results back for all of that in my house. This wouldn't happen except that we were in the absolute worst county in florida to have this happen in and they have a no-tolerance policy. So, I don't know what the fuck to do - its a first offence and I'm a good student and all that shit. Any details I'm sure people that saw it that were there - Ares, a3eyedfish, Ekstaza, a few of my friends and I dunno who else saw that whole ordeal can pip in on some information. OK well maybe I kind of told the whole story. So here I am at home now cleaing out my whole room and all my shit in my drawers for when they come. I know I left out a few things I'll add them in later but you got the jist of it all. Help!!!!!! Fuckin USA.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3272212 - 10/24/04 04:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude sounds like there original reason for suspicion was not legit.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3272426 - 10/24/04 05:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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If they were to arrest you they would have then. Just be more careful next time.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3273237 - 10/24/04 09:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't say another word to the cops. Get a lawyer now before they arrest you.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: z@z.com]
#3273958 - 10/25/04 01:12 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow. try not to have a lot of stuff on you in the future when you plan to trip
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3274217 - 10/25/04 03:17 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, remember you didn't have to tell them anything other than yr name, etc. you certainly didn't have to give them yr parents number, if you are over 18, yr parents really have nothing to do with it like someone said, if you were going to jail, it would've already happened, and i doubt you will hear any more at least from the cops next time, don't tell them where yr car is either
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: muse_sick]
#3274527 - 10/25/04 07:41 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am still confused as to what happend? Were you acting disorderly? OR did they just see you take a few puffs thinking it was weed? I didnt know that they were so uptight at magfest, makes me glad i didnt go. I am sure everything will work out, you make them sound like they are bluffing. Unless you have more to the story? How did they find your car? I think we are missing some big details.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: tak]
#3276667 - 10/25/04 07:21 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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From what I have heard they usually arn't very uptight about it there, but thats just from what people have told me. I wasn't acting disorderly at all, I was sitting down with a bunch of other shroomites and I was smoking a pipe and passing it around. They were watching me for about a half hour around the circle undercover. Noone that I talked to even saw them around though, including me. They found my car because they were getting very pissed off at me for keeping feeding them bullshit storys becuase I was off in salvia-land. When I sobered up I told them exactly how I got there, where my car was, and anything else they wanted to know in truth. They said that they sent all the stuff that the found on me to a lab, and as soon as the results for it get back then they are going to arrest me. I tried to lie to them and get out of it, and thats what really fucked me over anyway because it pissed them off. The reason it sounds like they were bluffing is because it was a very sketch situation, they were being extremely unprofessional about the situation. I'm going to re-write the story because it is a bit unclear. I was kind of in a rush to write it becuase I didn't know what was going to happen.
I have a few questions though:
1. Can what I said to them be used against me in court if I was under the influence of salvia and didn't even know what the hell I was saying?
2. Should I be worried about phone/internet tapping?
3. Does blue lotus have any opiates in it that would test positive for in a lab?
I have a few more but I forgot. I'll write them when I think of it. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3279025 - 10/26/04 10:43 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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IMHO
1. Yes, but a good lawyer could argue this point effectively.
2. The rule of thumb is to treat every phone as if it were tapped. But I highly doubt your phone would be tapped.
3. Afaik, nope. Blue lotus is uncontrolled/unregulated; and it would be too far a stretch to prosecute under the analog act.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3293428 - 10/29/04 11:02 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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your miranda rights state that anything you say or do canNOT be used against you until you are informed of your miranda rights. if he didn't give you the "you have the right to remain silent" bit which he didn't because you were not arrested then he's not susposed to be able to use any of it in court. did you see any badges? sounds kinda like you got robbed by security or just some clever guys rather than LEO but in anycase if they were gonna arrest you they would have arrested you right there, if you had pot on you there's a reason right there then they hold you until they get lab results back for the other stuff. not give you a chance to run by saying were gonna come arrest you if this stuff is illegal that'd be outrageously dumb especially since they could make some money off you if they arrest you and you ran. i bet you'll never hear another thing about this. how did they get your name to know who they'd be potentially arresting after the lab results? should never carry your i.d. around at an outdoor fest, hide that shit in a car and give them a bogus name, be funny two weeks later they're looking to arrest Terrance McKenna for possesion of psilocybin caps
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3294311 - 10/29/04 03:20 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia can kill you?
That's news to MOI!
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: John]
#3295110 - 10/29/04 07:37 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
John said: your miranda rights state that anything you say or do canNOT be used against you until you are informed of your miranda rights. if he didn't give you the "you have the right to remain silent" bit which he didn't because you were not arrested then he's not susposed to be able to use any of it in court. did you see any badges? sounds kinda like you got robbed by security or just some clever guys rather than LEO but in anycase if they were gonna arrest you they would have arrested you right there, if you had pot on you there's a reason right there then they hold you until they get lab results back for the other stuff. not give you a chance to run by saying were gonna come arrest you if this stuff is illegal that'd be outrageously dumb especially since they could make some money off you if they arrest you and you ran. i bet you'll never hear another thing about this. how did they get your name to know who they'd be potentially arresting after the lab results? should never carry your i.d. around at an outdoor fest, hide that shit in a car and give them a bogus name, be funny two weeks later they're looking to arrest Terrance McKenna for possesion of psilocybin caps
You just brought up a very good point that I didn't realize at all until now. I never even showed them my ID unless they took it out of my car. I wasn't carrying it on me for that specific reason. It was in the center console of my car. They could have found it when they searched my car, but they damn sure didn't say anything about it to me. I have a good feeling that I will never hear about this again either. I know that they were cops though whether they showed me their badges or not because Ekstaza and I were sitting down the next day watching the same person who was in my face along with 2 uniformed officers arrest 2 kids down the field. I hope everyone is right though. Thanks for the help!
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3295674 - 10/29/04 10:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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cop killer =]
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3296888 - 10/30/04 09:56 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Since Salvia is legal then they had no real probable cause to search/harass you. Therefore, even if they did press charges they will be thrown out.
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Well, the State Attorney decided to drop all charges on me. Yay, lucky for me!!!! I'm happy so I'm celebrating tonight with some MDMA, some kind bud, and some kind pussy. :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3388529 - 11/20/04 09:58 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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fuck yeah man!! I heard about the madness.. that rules the charges got dropped. I only hope they do the same for me those pigs disgust me.. down with the system.
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: Shroomism]
#3389691 - 11/20/04 03:24 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn right, good luck down there. Too bad you couldn't have chilled with us up there. At least your out now! Good luck with your case now!
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: ilus]
#3422391 - 11/29/04 08:24 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck Florida in every way possible. How long do you think we have until salvia gets scheduled?
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: Hendostan]
#3422432 - 11/29/04 09:01 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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> Fuck Florida in every way possible.
Four major huricanes in a single year... you would think they would start to listen...
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Re: Magnolia Fest Troubles. [Re: Seuss]
#3424578 - 11/29/04 06:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hurricanes are fun... untill you get hit by them.
Florida is pretty cool other then the shitty drug laws. But they are the same everywhere really. Only a bit stricter in that county.
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