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OfflineAaronEvil
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3272809 - 10/24/04 07:32 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
you can just read this board and see how ignorant bush supporters are




On the same token you can read and see how ignorant kerry supporters are. What it comes down to is you support the party not the person.


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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: Swami]
    #3272988 - 10/24/04 08:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

most people are ignorant. most of the people i run with at school are ignorant as hell about politics and current events but they're all voting for kerry. the only one who isn't actually follows current events and happens to be a political science major.

:shrug:

Edited by mushmaster (10/24/04 08:27 PM)

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OfflineDivided_Sky
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: ]
    #3273016 - 10/24/04 08:24 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Gijith, good reply. You're one of the smart liberals.


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Offlinezahudulallah
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3273315 - 10/24/04 09:51 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Who said he's a liberal? Why do you always apply labels?


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InvisibleGijith
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3273408 - 10/24/04 10:10 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I said it actually. I've become more conservative on many issues. Especially when it comes to economics, which is somewhat new to me. But at heart, I'm very liberal on most issues. I always hope to be.

And thanks for the compliment, Divided.


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Invisiblez@z.com
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: Gijith]
    #3273597 - 10/24/04 10:55 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

"Conservatives" always tell me I'm a liberal when they hear my views, but "liberals" always call me a conservative. So which am I dammit?


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InvisibleJonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: z@z.com]
    #3274327 - 10/25/04 04:23 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

a flip flopper?  :smirk:

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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3274572 - 10/25/04 08:13 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Did anybody actually read the poll questions? Almost all of them were of the "what is your perception of the administration's position" nature. Further, the number of the last question is 47. Left out were the answers to Qs 3-6,7-12,12b,18-19,22-23,27-32,35,39-40,42a-44. That is 27 questions left unreported entirely. They don't even say what the questions were. Then there are the questions that don't even include the correct answer in the multiple choice list, ie #38 about the Duelfer report.

Swami if you define stupid as someone who supports Bush and this war then you yourself have vacated any pretext of intellectual honesty. I personally think that anyone who thinks the number 1 liberal in the senate, a quisling, a traitor and a war criminal, a self professed worshiper of the UN, who has admitted that he has the interests of other nations ahead of our own, and who thinks he can cure disease and make the paralyzed walk again (PRAISE JESUS) would make a good advocate for US interests in the world stage is truly a deluded fool who deserves the total ass fucking that he will surely get should this benighted and befuddled scumcunt be elected.




You are a Great American.


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InvisibleJonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3274622 - 10/25/04 08:35 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

under bush's definition a great american = a fool.

so in that case, maybe.

and really...to call kerry a war criminal and not call bush one is beyond normal bush supporter delusional behavior. It's just plain ignorant.

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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #3274726 - 10/25/04 09:19 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

John Kerry is a self admitted war criminal. He doesn't like to talk about his war crimes any more, now he is just a war hero. Flip Flop.


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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3274842 - 10/25/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

At least he can admit things like that. Bush is just a little weasle. Neither of them will make good puppets for your country though.


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OfflineGazzBut
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3275772 - 10/25/04 03:08 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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). I think it would show an even higher level of ignorance regarding the relationship between oil and war,




Ok clever bollox, prove to me that the war in Iraq was not mainly motivated by oil? This should be good.


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InvisibleJonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: GazzBut]
    #3275792 - 10/25/04 03:12 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

prove that it was.

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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: GazzBut]
    #3275795 - 10/25/04 03:13 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

This should be good.

it usually is any time someone sets out to prove a negative.

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InvisibleEonTan
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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: Gijith]
    #3276406 - 10/25/04 06:03 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Gijith said:
Divided Sky,

>>>I think that's outside the realm of possibility.
Does Israel control the US government?
>>>Nobody's giving orders. But I do think there's influence. There's certainly a stronger Isreali voice in Washington than Palestinian. There's a lot of sensitivity toward Isreali viewpoints.

:cheers:




I'd be interested in knowing your opinion of why Israel has a voice in washington and the palestinians don't.

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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: EonTan]
    #3276498 - 10/25/04 06:28 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

There are alot more Israelis with dual citizenship, alot more Americans with family members in the US, and most obviously that Israel is a Western democracy while the Palestinians are run by corrupt autocratic leader and engage in terrorism.
There is a strong Jewish/Israeli lobby in this country, but I think it only resonantes because Americans sympathize with other democratic countries and dislike suicide bombings. Supporting Israel seems more logical and justified to most Americans than the alternative.


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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: EonTan]
    #3276602 - 10/25/04 07:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

What Divided said.


An interesting little bit:

My great step uncle was a congressman in the 60s. He passed away over the summer.

When I was younger, we used to go down to Maryland to have Thanksgiving at his house. I remember him saying that back in the 60s, inner circles within the House and within the Johnson admin would rarely refer to Isreal by name, but instead they'd call it The First Colony of the United States. Or they'd just say The Colony, for short.


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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3277410 - 10/25/04 10:20 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
Haha kerry will do just the exact same shit bush will do. There isnt any change in the system. It will be the same crap over again. If you wanna fix the system vote in a third party.




exactly. nothing is going to change. he's just a big floppy ass who'll say whatever he can to become president. yeah i know i bad mouthed him. honestly, i consider myself very ignorant when it comes to the candidates, but I think I've got a good enough picture when looking at the candidates that nothing is going to change. Kerry is never going to get a national healthcare system inplemented. It's too much money.

I'll vote third party. But which one?


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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: ]
    #3278409 - 10/26/04 05:48 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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it usually is any time someone sets out to prove a negative.




Ok so perhaps Divided Sky would instead like to outline what he sees as ignorance in the view that oil is the main reason for the invasion of Iraq.

As I said, this should be good.


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Re: Majority of Bush Supporters are Ignorant [Re: Swami]
    #3278863 - 10/26/04 09:53 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Something like 70% of Bush Supporters STILL believe Iraq had/has WMDs and Iraq was responsible for 9/11...when dealing with people this clueless its best ot just forget about it and rally your own side and turn out the vote and hope for the best.


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