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OfflineGordoSmith
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Help - A few questions from a first time grower.
    #3269569 - 10/24/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well first thing is.. I'm using this tek.

http://www.fungifun.org/pf/pf_en.htm#materialien

I'm going to be using a B+ Cub strain, and spore syringe, most likely from

http://www.lilshopofspores.com/online_ordering.htm

Is Inoculate when you enject the spores into the cake?

First question- How many jars in your opinion do you think I should start with on my first grow?

How many jars will 1 spore syringe from the above link cultivate?

Now my second question is- on the tek, it says poke 4 holes if you have a metal lid on your 1/2 pint jars.. What if I'm using just 1/2 pint cups and tin foil lids? Should I still poke 4 holes? OR will their be enough circulation for the Co2 to get out?

Third question,
"So now you have 3 layers of foil over the opening. The top layer is lifted during the inoculation."

What exactly does the above statement mean.. Does it mean, that when the Inoculation is occurring, will their still be 2 layers of tinfoil?

If I'm ordering a 10cc Syringe, how much is 1.5 ml? Referring to the below question, copied from the tek I plan on using.

"You should use 1 - 1.5 ml of the spore suspension per jar so one 10ml syringe is sufficient for 6 -10 jars."



Incubation- What kind of incubator have you used and how did you make it? Did it work well? What strain did you use. How much did the incubator itself cost you?
(question preferably for people who have used the B+ Strain before)

When fruiting what did you use at the bottom of your fruiting device? I know paper towels would be more cost efficient.(seeing how most of us don't have Perlite laying around the house.) But does it produce less or equal results as the perlite/expanded clay pellets.

What is your opinion on dunking cakes after each flush? Has it ever worked for you, to create larger flush sizes?

Do you have any words of advice for the beginners that is not mentioned in all of the FAQ's and such? Any advice for me on my first grow?

:mushroom2:Add any additional information. Please only add positive criticism. :mushroom2:

:mushroom2:Thank you ahead of time for your help, it is greatly appreciated. :mushroom2:

Yours GordoSmith


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3269592 - 10/24/04 12:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

im a first timer also but ill give it my best shot from my constant research. look into a karo tek to make that syringe last a 100 times longer (literlly), ml=cc they are the same. keep the third layer of tin foil on but inoculate throught the first 2 layers. the incubater (which is where im at so im gonna stop here) i use a tupperware container $8 at walmart and a heating pad $15 at walmart.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3269604 - 10/24/04 12:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks. Ill look for a karo tek you say? And to clear up what you said about pokeing holes.. I'f im useing 3 layers of tin foil.. Keep them all on when I'm pokeing the holes? Wont that leave room for contams?


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3269615 - 10/24/04 12:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

1.12 jars

2.if you use tin foil lid no hole is needed

3. 2 tin foil lids lift one to inoc then put the other back on to seal the hole.

4. just squirt some in the jar you will see the dashes on the needel.
5,, dunk and roll is allway the way to go.
6, good luck its easy.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: mr_X_]
    #3269621 - 10/24/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yeah what mr x said sorry bout being confusing on the tin foil


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: mr_X_]
    #3269623 - 10/24/04 12:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for clearing that up mr x.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3269624 - 10/24/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd like to view everyones opinion.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3269750 - 10/24/04 01:25 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

With all of this.. I have figured it all to be no more then $80..

1 syringe for $17 ( should I get more? )
I have cups already
Bag of vermiculite. No more then $15
Bag of brown rice flower. No more then $15
aquarium heater- $20-30.
I have a pressure cooker, 1/2 pint jars or cups/ tubs for the incubator.. thermometor..tinfoil.

Am I forgetting anything Important?


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3269775 - 10/24/04 01:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

a way to humidify


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3269785 - 10/24/04 01:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

AHh, How do I humidify?


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3269806 - 10/24/04 01:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Will it automaticlly humidfy with the evaporating water?


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3269830 - 10/24/04 01:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

perlite, an ultrasonic humidifier, terrerium humidifier, spray bottle, and you also need a way to build a tererrium


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3269840 - 10/24/04 01:49 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

after you incubate you have to trasfer them to a terrerium to fruit them or you can case them which i dont know how but it supposedly yields more


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3270008 - 10/24/04 02:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I thought that the humidity would be automatic because of the moistness at the bottem of my aquarium and the covor over it and the co2 being trapped.. am I wrong?


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3270014 - 10/24/04 02:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

you are looking for a high 90% humidity the most i think it could raise it in that scenario would be about 5%(guessing) you need that shit high.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3270023 - 10/24/04 02:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ive read that you can use a paper towel in a poor mans tererrium somewhere but i still wouldnt suggest it.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3270191 - 10/24/04 03:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And yea, I forgot to mention perlite.. hehe..


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3270204 - 10/24/04 03:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

alright thats cool yeah your good mix some peroxide in with it to help fight contams which i just experienced for the first time and i thought i was being super sterile.


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: GordoSmith]
    #3270228 - 10/24/04 03:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

GordoSmith said:
Well first thing is..


Is Inoculate when you enject the spores into the cake?


Now my second question is- on the tek, it says poke 4 holes if you have a metal lid on your 1/2 pint jars.. What if I'm using just 1/2 pint cups and tin foil lids? Should I still poke 4 holes? OR will their be enough circulation for the Co2 to get out?

Third question,
"So now you have 3 layers of foil over the opening. The top layer is lifted during the inoculation."

What exactly does the above statement mean.. Does it mean, that when the Inoculation is occurring, will their still be 2 layers of tinfoil?

Incubation- What kind of incubator have you used and how did you make it? Did it work well? What strain did you use. How much did the incubator itself cost you?

Yours GordoSmith




Innoculating is the spores into jars/substrate..

cover your jars with Tyvek then 2 to 4 holes in the metal lid, or tin foil, then put on ring, or hold down with rubber bands.  ..what i do is poke 2 holes in my metal lids.  I cover with tyvek, then metal lid then ring.  I inoculate then cover the spot where needle went in with a bandaid.  I have also just put on 2 coffee filters and rubberbanded them after noculation.

Incubator>> get yourself 2 rubbermaid tubs, i use 30 gallon.  Put 4 or 5 inches of water into one tub.  Get a fishtank heater, i use a 15-20 gallon one that cost 20 bucks at wallyworld, and put that into the water in middle of bottom tub.  Now put 2nd tub into first tub so it's floating ontop of the water in 1st tub.  Now ziptie 2nd tub to 1st tub near the top to keep it steady..and viola! incubator.  :cool: :cool:


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Re: Help - A few questions from a first time grower. [Re: iluan]
    #3270684 - 10/24/04 07:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Illuan, I DO poke holes in the tinfoil? I've heard a do and don't..

What is Tyvek?.

And I still need to know if I need any other materials besides the ones listed..

And a question about the fruiting chamber.. The Perlite will produce the humidty I need right?


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