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Offlinemurseh8r
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THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND
    #3269439 - 10/23/04 11:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)


HOPE YOU CAN READ THIS.....THIS IS ACTUAL F.B.I FILE ENTRY...
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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: murseh8r]
    #3269444 - 10/23/04 11:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Any reason we should be interested?


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: retread]
    #3269519 - 10/23/04 11:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

if you knew anything about the underground (weathermen) then you would have an interest, but since you don't then i see why you ask this question.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: murseh8r]
    #3269712 - 10/24/04 01:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Do you think groups like the WU will make a comeback in American society? Perhaps even a re-formed Weather Underground itself?


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: murseh8r]
    #3269754 - 10/24/04 01:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.oscar.com/nominees/nom_33108.html
"FILM SYNOPSIS
As frustration mounted during the 1960s among groups opposing the Vietnam War, disenchanted members of the Students for a Democratic Society formed a radical offshoot called the Weathermen. Dedicated to the overthrow of the American political and economic systems, the group embarked on a campaign of violence that would eventually force many of its members into hiding."


thats the closest thing to information i could find. sounds like a fun topic tho.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: BleaK]
    #3269776 - 10/24/04 01:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/weatherunderground/index.html

Another good site about the WU. I also found an essay by Naomi Jaffe, a former WU member, on the film's site:

http://www.upstatefilms.org/weather/jaffe.html


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: trendal]
    #3269816 - 10/24/04 01:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I just read about them breaking Leary out of jail. Can anyone give a quick synopis of their other accomplishments?


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: cb9fl]
    #3270263 - 10/24/04 03:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Trying to kill people planting car bombs, robery and murder. Great guys...
:rolleyes:


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3270294 - 10/24/04 04:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Is a thousand-pound bomb dropped from a B-52 morally superior to a car bomb?


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: Swami]
    #3270317 - 10/24/04 04:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Is a thousand-pound bomb dropped from a B-52 morally superior to a car bomb?



It all depends on the target.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: z@z.com]
    #3270358 - 10/24/04 04:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Not in the eyes of God.  :heart:


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: murseh8r]
    #3270798 - 10/24/04 09:24 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Those wanting some more info might find this documentary useful:
The Weather Underground


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: cb9fl]
    #3270815 - 10/24/04 09:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

yes they broke Leary out of jail successfully


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3270926 - 10/24/04 11:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Trying to kill people planting car bombs, robery and murder. Great guys...




Actually, at one time the Weathermen did want to kill innocent people. But after their bomb manufacturing accident in NYC, they decided to never to kill - this was after they went underground (hence the name change). They continued bombings of government buildings but they followed meticulous steps to avoid any death - the bombs were designed to be smaller and acts of retaliation (blowing up a few toilets after Nixon ordered increased bombings of North Vietnam, for example) and came with plenty of warning. These bombings were more symbolic than anything.

I'm not sure what this accomplished - but they were not murderers. The only people to die were their own members during the bomb making accident.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: Vvellum]
    #3271104 - 10/24/04 12:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Er, the weathermen were certainly murderers. Have you read any history of them ?Obviously not.


It's funny how groups like this get apoligists from the left crawling out of the wood work. I wonder if the KKK said that they were against violence, as they have, if the lefties will start kissing their cocks in glee and covering up past bad acts.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: retread]
    #3271872 - 10/24/04 05:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

yes, actually I am familiar with the Weathermen. I once was a student of Professor Bill Ayers - one of the founders of the organization. Now, please list the people that the Weathermen/Underground killed. This should be interesting considering the fact that they killed no one. The only deaths associated with the organization was the accidental explosion of their own members. In 1980 or so, former member Kathy Boudin participated in an armed robbery of a Brinks truck, I believe - this was not the actions of the Weather Underground - they pretty much had disbanded several years prior.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: retread]
    #3272093 - 10/24/04 06:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Have you read any history of them ?Obviously not.

Have you?


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: Vvellum]
    #3272098 - 10/24/04 06:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i would hope we could make a presence as strong as the underground but by more reasonable means.
the answer to unjustified violence is not in anyway, more unjustified violence, nor is it destruction of property.
id say that the weather underground was fighting for the right reason but going about it the wrong way.........


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: murseh8r]
    #3272107 - 10/24/04 06:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

what we really need is a group that destroys their own property.


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Re: THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND [Re: murseh8r]
    #3272134 - 10/24/04 06:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

id say that the weather underground was fighting for the right reason

pffft. they were communists and they were fighting for the abolition of private property. you nearly contradict yourself.


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