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HPS Setup, what fun.
    #3268815 - 10/23/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

SO I posted all these 'it keeps turning off' posts, and all these people made fun of me...wish they would reminded me to cover the light sensor on the light.

Everythings up n running...when should I start vegging?
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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3268899 - 10/23/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Keep the HPS about 6-10" away from the plant. Hold your hand level with the top of the plant and see if it gets too hot.

You can veg pretty much indefinately. It all depends on the amount of space you have and how big you want the plant. Fourteen to sixteen inches sounds about right to switch to 12/12.

If possible I would move the fan to the bottom of the closet. That way it would be blowing colder air up instead of warmer air down.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: cb9fl]
    #3269813 - 10/24/04 01:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So when am I gonna start noticing major changes in the growth rate of the plant, it has just completed its first 24-0 70w HPS lamp cycle...

Any watering tips? ive already killed one plant...uprooting and watering it..

Also, I dont want a huge plant, I want a short, dense one.

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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3269847 - 10/24/04 01:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

70W HPS isn't very strong. Keep that as close as you can without burning the plant. Also use some reflective material like mylar around the plant.

What kind of growth rate do you expect? I have 8 plants that are three weeks old and they're around 7" tall. A plant could be 15" tall but have a lot of streching.

Some people love 24-0. I think the plants start to look "tired" after 16,17 hours so I run 18-0.

Only think I would say with watering is, mj loves to be soaked once then let to mostly dry out. I wait till 1 full inch of soil is completely dry before I soak the plant.

This is great for diagnosing problems.
http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1111

No matter what happens your first grow will be a great learning experience.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: cb9fl]
    #3269867 - 10/24/04 01:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Like I said, I moves a plant into a small trash can, it wilted and dided. I can take pics if you want. That was crazy it was a big ol beauty too. Hope this one makes it, Im still not sure if the lights are gonna do the job Im expecting.

I want a short dense plant, is this possible? Also, I have those spiked in this plant...leve em in? Use more food??

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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3269873 - 10/24/04 02:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

can i Put a 400w bulb in a 70w ballast/lamp?

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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3269918 - 10/24/04 02:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

NO.

A short dense plant is possible with an indica grown under strong light.

Is this bagseed or know genetics?


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: cb9fl]
    #3269931 - 10/24/04 02:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

bagseed. I just put my floros parallel to the stem.

You think thisll help out? When am I gonna notice a significant difference in my plant?

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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3270067 - 10/24/04 03:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)



Theses plants were grown by my cat under a 400W HPS at 18/6 cycle. They are at day 22 from seed in the picture. The strain is 75% indica 25% sativa. Should give you a rough estimate of what a 400W HPS is capable of.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: faslimy]
    #3270872 - 10/24/04 10:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Only 3 weeks and theyre that big?!?! So you have buds in like 2 mos???

I only have a 70w, is mine gonna compare?


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3272491 - 10/24/04 08:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well, Ive got it on 18-6 starting today. This plant, which was started outside, is 10 weeks old. Its first 6-7 weeks were spent in the chilly outside. Is that going to affect the size of the plant? Should I be topping the plant...here come pic

Ahould I keep the floro alongside?

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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3272564 - 10/24/04 08:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)





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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3272689 - 10/24/04 08:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah the fluoro should be fine, whats the day and night temps?.. you do have a thermometer don't you?

Make sure you rotate the plant for even lights. I thought you said you had a 400W HPS, doh. That leaf looks nutrient deficient. I recommend spending more time on overgrow.com as this forum doesn't have a lot of weed growers.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: faslimy]
    #3276843 - 10/25/04 10:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Get rid of that fixture, http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/1151

and post at OG rather then shroomery. Read all the overgrow FAQ's and you should be on your way to success.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3276897 - 10/25/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

And you need to read up on scrog because its needed when growing under the 70w's. If you want to see what a 70w grow should look like check out this, http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread....he+green+dragon


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3290949 - 10/28/04 08:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

heres the update. Sure wish my bigger plant hadnt died...heres how the lil one is lookin

there is a 70w HPS on the other side
here the stem

lookin ok?

I need plant food, Ill go get it tonight, just tell me what I can get at WALMART that I can feed it.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3291002 - 10/28/04 09:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

the only brand i like at those "chain stores" is Peters. Peters is a great brand, i use it all the time....but whatever you, stay away from Miracle Grow. it has to be the worst company ever established...seriously, if you want to kill your plant, use a miracle grow product.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: Psilostylin]
    #3291460 - 10/28/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

shultz is good too. Look for an even NPK value ie. 10-10-10 fert for veg and a high P or middle number for flower. I used miracle grow 15-30-15 for my first grow durring flower with great results, just be sure to flush as you would with any chem ferts.


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3291762 - 10/29/04 12:24 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

sure to flush? Im actually using a Miracle Gro potting soil...does my plant look healhty?


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Re: HPS Setup, what fun. [Re: rasjoe2112]
    #3293621 - 10/29/04 02:20 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes it looks nice. Flushing is watering with straight tap water about 2x the volume of the pots. Do this for the last two weeks when using chem ferts to clean out the soil of all chem buildups and make a less harsh smoke.


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