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mexicana 'a' on straw?
    #3267210 - 10/23/04 09:37 AM (13 years, 30 days ago)

Do you think it would work if i used some mexicana 'a' spawn (ryegrass seed) to inoculate some pasturized straw?


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3267544 - 10/23/04 01:20 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

anyone?


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3267870 - 10/23/04 03:11 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

I know it won't form sclerotia. Don't know about fruiting, but its hard enough as it is. If you have the ryegrass seed colonized, why not use it to inoculate more rye grass seed?


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3268011 - 10/23/04 03:54 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

I try one time to spawn straw with an small amount of gras seed/ millet with no success. Maby this was because i used to less gras seeds.


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: Prankster239]
    #3268226 - 10/23/04 04:48 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

why wont it form sclerotia is it because the straw wont last long enough for it to form sclerotia?


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3268710 - 10/23/04 07:05 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

It could form sclerotia, but the straw manages to get inside the sclerotia... Yucky.

Mexicana bulk grows are usually done in large bags of seed, not straw.


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3268718 - 10/23/04 07:07 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

mexicana does not grow on straw as far as i know and the 'A' strain is difficult to fruit even on ideal substrates. it's a sclerotia-forming strain and even if one could get it to grow on straw sclerotia + straw sounds like a mess to me.


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: ]
    #3271049 - 10/24/04 12:36 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

What makes fruiting sclerotia forming strains so difficult? I'm going to be giving Tampanensis a try soon, but if it's too difficult for a newb I might just do a large invitro grow. Unfortunately that would leave me with no spore prints. Maybe I can do jar to jar with sclerotia into new jars of rye grass?


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: Heffy]
    #3271387 - 10/24/04 02:46 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

In general they're probably not overly difficult (not cubensis easy either). Its mexicana A strain thats the main problem, from what i've read. Its a strain that was developed as a great sclerotia producer, and has difficulty fruiting. Jalisco, B, and Tampanensis sound to be somewhat easier.

And jar to jar should work great. I'm sure its how most people continue their grows especially with mexicana A. Apparently you can dehydrate sclerotia and refridgerate it for up to 2 years. When ready, cut or tear it open and cut some of the inner part out to be transfered to petri dish.


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3271419 - 10/24/04 02:55 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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mexicana does not grow on straw




Thats not right. I see straw grow logs from Mex B and Jalisco with great success.

For example

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ev=#Post2397204

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...ev=#Post2440000


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3271849 - 10/24/04 04:56 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

Yes Mexicana A does exceptionally well on Straw spawned with rye grass seed. Fruits are typically larger then on smaller casings made with Rye grass seed. TONS of Very large sclerotia are produced, but as was mentioned they are fused together with the straw, and you have to break them up to get the straw out.

Casings of Mexicana A or B produce far more sclerotia in a shorter period of time then INVITRO. The sclerotia are just a pain to clean.


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: EonTan]
    #3274414 - 10/25/04 07:38 AM (13 years, 28 days ago)

so when ive got some colonised ryegrass seed spawn bags should i just case them all with straight verm to increase sclerotia yield? how much more sclerotia is produced? how much quicker is it than ivitro? is there any bulk substrate that i can use which wouldnt end up inside the sclerotia?


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Re: mexicana 'a' on straw? [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3274715 - 10/25/04 11:11 AM (13 years, 28 days ago)

Try for yourself and see what works best for you.

I would estimate on average you get the same amount of sclerotia in 1/3 the time, you get fruits also.

Manure,straw,compost are all difficult to clean off the sclerotia.
Casing soil is a pain to clean as well. Vermiculite flecks are the worst.


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