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Where does Bush Stand on the issues?
    #3263990 - 10/22/04 11:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I still am unclear about bush's stance on the issues because of his constant flip-flopping. He says stem cell research is destroying life but he supports funding it. He says he is against pro-choice but he isnt for averturning roe vs wade. He says he is a uniter and not a divider but he uses every wedge issue he can pull out of his ass. He says he is a conservative but he wants to alter the constitution with multiple partisan amendments. He says he is fiscally conservative while he racks up the largest debt in history. He says he loves freedom all the whil we have the largest prison population in history. He says he believes in states rights but he supports putting medical marijuana patients in jail. He says he supports the troops all the while rushing them into a war without the proper equipment. He says he is for smaller government but creates the patriot act and homeland security department. Where does the hipocracy end? It doesn't. I cant think of one thing that Bush has said that wasn't deceiptfull. Forget what he says, look at what he has done. He only has to fool all you gullible repooplickens for another couple weeks. He hopes that by the repooplickens realize that he is a lying nazi it will be too late.


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: 1stimer]
    #3264194 - 10/22/04 12:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

1stimer writes:

He says stem cell research is destroying life but he supports funding it.

Incorrect. He has no problem using federal funds to support adult stem cell research. He opposes giving funding towards embryonic stem cell research.

He says he is against pro-choice but he isnt for averturning roe vs wade.

He can't overturn Roe vs Wade. Only the Supreme Court can do that, and even then only if they agree to consider a case challenging which has been submitted to them.

He says he is a uniter and not a divider but he uses every wedge issue he can pull out of his ass.

Such as? For every "wedge issue" (care to name some?) Bush mentions, the Dems have a dozen.

He says he is a conservative but he wants to alter the constitution with multiple partisan amendments.

Such as? The only Constitutional amendment I've heard him float is one that in a sane world would be completely unnecessary anyway -- one which states marriage is between a single man and a single woman. Which other multiple amendments did you have in mind? You are of course aware that the president can't amend the Constitution.

He says he is fiscally conservative while he racks up the largest debt in history.

His increase of the national debt is not the largest in history (as per cent of GDP) but there is no doubt he is not particularly fiscally conservative. More so than Kerry, of course, but that doesn't change the fact that he hasn't vetoed any spending bills. I give you half points on that one. What the hell, make it 70-30.

He says he loves freedom all the whil we have the largest prison population in history.

Yep. The fact that the crime rate continues to decline has no connection to the number of criminals sitting in jail rather than out loose doing their thing.

He says he believes in states rights but he supports putting medical marijuana patients in jail.

You nailed one. Good for you! Of course, Clinton was no better. Kerry says he won't put 'em in jail, but Kerry will say anything. Talk is cheap.

He says he supports the troops all the while rushing them into a war without the proper equipment.

The military commanders in charge disagree with your assessment. And of course, if you wait until every possible thing is 100% perfect before acting, virtually no action would ever be undertaken.

He says he is for smaller government but creates the patriot act and homeland security department.

Would he have done so had 9-11 never happened? Do you believe a homeland security department is useful? Do you believe Al Gore wouldn't have created such a department? The Patriot Act was a bipartisan effort. Almost no one voted against it.

He only has to fool all you gullible repooplickens for another couple weeks.

Awwww. "Repooplickens". How precious!

He hopes that by the repooplickens realize that he is a lying nazi it will be too late.

"Nazi". Uh huh. back away from the Koolaid, son. If Bush is a Nazi, Kerry is for sure a Commie.



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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: Phred]
    #3264206 - 10/22/04 12:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Such as? For every "wedge issue" (care to name some?) Bush mentions, the Dems have a dozen.

Well first off, I didn't even see 1stimer mention the dems, so why bring them up at all? Simply as a way of saying "oh, well others do it so it's OK for Bush to do it"?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The "democrats" are just as filthy, greedy, and sneaky as the republicans are :smirk:


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: trendal]
    #3264236 - 10/22/04 12:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

trendal writes:

The "democrats" are just as filthy, greedy, and sneaky as the republicans are.

If you had written "The "democrats" are just as filthy, greedy, and sneaky on any given day of the week as the republicans are in an entire month," I'd agree with you.

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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: Phred]
    #3264242 - 10/22/04 12:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Then we will have to agree to disagree on this one :wink:


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: Phred]
    #3264295 - 10/22/04 12:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Such as? The only Constitutional amendment I've heard him float is one that in a sane world would be completely unnecessary anyway -- one which states marriage is between a single man and a single woman. Which other multiple amendments did you have in mind? You are of course aware that the president can't amend the Constitution.



He has called for constitutional amendments to ban abortion and impose prayer in the public schools, and rejecting any sanctions on discrimination against homosexuals. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/aug2000/rep-a01.shtml

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"wedge issue" (care to name some?)



Gay marriage. Vietnam. Religion.
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The fact that the crime rate continues to decline has no connection to the number of criminals sitting in jail rather than out loose doing their thing.



Doing there thing as in smoking pot. Drug arrests constitute the largest percentage of inmates.
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Kerry will say anything. Talk is cheap.



I am talking about Bush. Diverting the subject to Kerry doesnt make Bush any less of a liar.

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The military commanders in charge disagree with your assessmen



General Sanchez disagrees.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/18/prez.iraq/index.html
How can Bush slam Kerry for not voting to fund the troops if the troops didnt need anything? If they were well equiped then why would they need more funding for equipment they didnt have like armor.
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If Bush is a Nazi, Kerry is for sure a Commie.




The leader of Russia was the former head of the KGB. He supports Bush.


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: 1stimer]
    #3264343 - 10/22/04 01:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

1stimer writes:

He has called for constitutional amendments to ban abortion and impose prayer in the public schools, and rejecting any sanctions on discrimination against homosexuals. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/aug2000/rep-a01.shtml

Dude, WTF? An article from August 1, 2000 on the Republican National Convention from the World Socialist Website? Why not throw in a link to Noam Chomsky from 1999 while you're at it?

Gay marriage. Vietnam. Religion.

LOL! Gay marriage is going to be a wedge issue no matter who initiates the discussion. And for your information, it wasn't Bush who pushed it into the limelight.

Viet Nam? You have got to be joking! When did Bush ever mention Viet Nam before Kerry decided it was smart to reopen that wound? For that matter, when has he ever mentioned Viet Nam even since Kerry has brought it up, except to honor Kerry for his service there? Get a grip.

Religion? Again, religion is going to be a wedge issue no matter who brings it up. And for your information, Bush spends far less time talking about religion than Kerry has. Hell, Kerry has even suddenly taken to delivering Sunday "sermons", fa cryin' out loud.

Drug arrests constitute the largest percentage of inmates.

As they did before Bush took office. As they will if Kerry gets elected. As they would have had Gore won the election. Look, we both agree the WoD is ridiculous. But to claim that Bush is responsible for the current drug laws is absurd.

General Sanchez disagrees.

Big whoop. Others don't. And as I said, if you wait for everything to be 100% perfect, nothing ever gets done.

How can Bush slam Kerry for not voting to fund the troops if the troops didnt need anything? If they were well equiped then why would they need more funding for equipment they didnt have like armor.

You do understand the concept of wear and tear, right? Of consumables? Of "just in time" inventory management?

The leader of Russia was the former head of the KGB. He supports Bush.

And Yasser Arafat and Kim Jong Il and Castro and Muhathir Mohammed support Kerry.


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: Phred]
    #3264376 - 10/22/04 01:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

His biggest wedge issue he is using is linking 9-11 and Iraq. If you dont support the Iraq invasion then you somehow are supporting terrorists. Making people who are anti-war out to be anti-american is disgracefull.


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: 1stimer]
    #3264401 - 10/22/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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His biggest wedge issue he is using is linking 9-11 and Iraq.




Vague word, "linking" Care to expand a bit on that?

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Making people who are anti-war out to be anti-american is disgracefull.




Care to point us to a Bush statement -- any Bush statement -- where he makes out that people who are anti-war are anti-American?


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: Phred]
    #3264424 - 10/22/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

dude, why are you trying to play semantics with this one?

'linking' like dick and george have time and time again implied
a connection between Iraq and 9/11 in an effort to justify the
war that has driven a wedge between the population of the
United States.

bush made a statement in response to Kerry in the second or
third election where he said that Kerry could not be critical of
the effort in Iraq and be considered trustworthy by the armed
forces and lead effectively, with us or against us...so on and
so forth.


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Re: Where does Bush Stand on the issues? [Re: Phred]
    #3264432 - 10/22/04 01:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

"repooplickans" Hahaha!

I'll go ahead and field that last question pinky, if I may. He "linked" 9/11 and Iraq by misleading americans into thinking that Hussein and Al-Queda were allies in what he called an "axis of evil", even though nobody has found any evidence to support any link between the two regimes.

I also remember hearing him say "you're either with us or against us". To me that seems no different than him saying, "if you don't support this war then you must support the terrorists"


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