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Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters?
    #3263970 - 10/22/04 10:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I was listening to Alan Colmes' radio show last night and he had a guest on who called himself a freegen.
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He was talking about reducing waste and consumption by taking things out of dumpsters that business throw out. I thought that was considered stealing but he was saying it was legal. Anyone know for sure?


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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: 1stimer]
    #3263981 - 10/22/04 10:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i'm pretty sure that when you throw something in the trash, it's no longer considered your property. that's why cops can search your trash without a warrant or even probable cause.


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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: 1stimer]
    #3263985 - 10/22/04 10:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you get caught, you can be charged with theft and tresspassing (corporate dumpsters are usually located on private property, lots of times with fences around the area).

I wonder if there's many phreaks on these boards? Anyone ever go dumpster diving? I used to find all kinds of interesting shit in the Bell Canada dumpsters :wink:


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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: 1stimer]
    #3263989 - 10/22/04 11:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm. If it's on their property, it could be trespassing. If not, I guess it's public property.






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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: Learyfan]
    #3263999 - 10/22/04 11:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think the police need to have a warrant to search through people's garbage, but I could be wrong. If they DO need one, I can see how just going and rooting through someone's garbage would be illegal.


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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: trendal]
    #3264005 - 10/22/04 11:08 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i dont know about tresspassing..but theres no law against stealing garbage...


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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: trendal]
    #3264017 - 10/22/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty sure police don't need a warrant for searching through trash as long as it's not on your property. It becomes public property once it's out on the street or whatever.

Chances are, if you're rooting through corporate dumpsters, it's on their property which would be trespassing.







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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3264023 - 10/22/04 11:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Dumpster_diving

Legal status

Dumpster diving is illegal in some parts of the United States, though in many places the relevant laws do not seem to be very vigorously enforced. Court cases in the US have held that there is no common law expectation of privacy for discarded materials. Police (and possible other) searches of dumpsters and like discards are not violations; evidence seized in this way has been permitted in many criminal trials. The doctrine is less well established in regard to civil litigation. Similarly in the UK; though diving is, in theory, theft, there is very little enforcement in practice. Private investigators have written books on 'PI technique' in which dumpster diving, or its moral equivalent 'wastebasket recovery', figure prominently.


So I guess it's sort of a gray area.


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Re: Against the law to dig through corporate dumpsters? [Re: trendal]
    #3264045 - 10/22/04 11:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i once worked at a pharmacy where anyone caught diving in the dumpster out back was to be run off the property. that was only because there was sensitive information in there and people go through pharmacy dumpsters to get at script papers and medical information. when i worked as a maintenance worker at a swim club\day camp, nobody gave a damn who went through the dumpster. (i personally loaded that dumpster every morning with thirty 55 gallon cans of yesterdays festering garbage... anybody who really wanted to dig in that shit was welcome to do so be me :lol:)


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    #3264052 - 10/22/04 11:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Those aren't the kind of dumpsters most of us go for :wink:

Well the pharmacy...I could see that being a good one! Though I hadn't thought of it before...

My interest was always in finding telecom parts and manuals. A manual to the phone system in the hands of a curious person is a formidable tool :wink:


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