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Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Malt Extract, Rye Grain, Vermiculite

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OfflineTheGreatButtPaca
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Rye Subtrate and Coffee
    #3263454 - 10/22/04 03:50 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Is it best to use rye flour in place of the BRF in the PF tek?

or should I just use whole grain rye by itself and leave enough room in the jars to shake the substrate around?


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OfflineTheGreatButtPaca
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Re: Rye Subtrate and Coffee [Re: TheGreatButtPaca]
    #3263458 - 10/22/04 03:52 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I almost forgot.....

is it okay to use the 50/50 water/coffee with any substrate?


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Offlinescatmanrav
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Re: Rye Subtrate and Coffee [Re: TheGreatButtPaca]
    #3263513 - 10/22/04 04:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Most likly not, and if you do you will need to PC for at least an hour, two would be best.

It's only been tested with rye berries and not extensivly so make sure you realize this ups your risk for contamination. Never use coffee in any part that doesn't get sterilized thouroghly (dunking, spraying, anything).

The rye flour I don't know about. I wouldn't say its best, but it would probably work just the same. You can use the whole grain but do not do the PF tek method. Whole grains are a different think then the PF Tek. Its simple and made to be that way. If you want more, look for more. Quarts of rye berries. Soaked in 50/50 coffee water if you like. I'd sterilize for 2 hours (recommended by the person who came up with this) at 15 PSI.


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Re: Rye Subtrate and Coffee [Re: TheGreatButtPaca]
    #3263816 - 10/22/04 08:43 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Friend did a test batch of PF style EQ jars with commercial brown rice flour, homemade BRF, homemade BRF with light malt extract added to the H20, and rye flour. Maybe this will help some.

Here's how the looked:

jar #1 home made BRF #2 store BRF #3 DME/BRF #4 Rye

The B rice flour did best overall, with a slight advantage to the homade stuff.

The cakes where DME was added grew dense but slow. Took over 30 days to fully colonize. Lost about 60 to contams.

The rye jars colonized at a slower pace than the BRF, but grew denser mycelium.

I personally did not see an advantage to rye flour. The friend might try adjusting the ratio of flour to verm. next time. Or maybe make his own rye flour.


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Re: Rye Subtrate and Coffee [Re: blacklabrat]
    #3263819 - 10/22/04 08:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ooops .......I meant to say 60% of the BRF jars with malt extract, not 60 jars.

I don't have that much free time on my hands yet! :smile:


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Re: Rye Subtrate and Coffee [Re: blacklabrat]
    #3264565 - 10/22/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the insight


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