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Offlinefreedomseeker
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Any ideas on what these might be????
    #3263063 - 10/22/04 01:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I found these in Oak leaf mulch in landscaped beds.  There were lots of them at varying stages.  I don't think they're active...but can't figure out what they might be.

Cool looking in their pin stage, then they open up into nice, broad, glossy waves.



The stems and young caps are very different from the mature mushrooms.



Here's one more shot.



I forgot I had them in my bucket until yesterday and they melted away pretty well so the spore print wasn't done!

4-7cm when mature

6-7 cm tall

Large groups in Oak mulch (probably beauty bark as well....although fairly old.)

Moderate shade at the sight.

Any ideas what they may be?  :confused:

THNX

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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3263104 - 10/22/04 01:18 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

they look a lot like honey mushrooms, Armillaria mellea, parasitic on trees...

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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: spores]
    #3263171 - 10/22/04 01:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

the middle one looks alot like a philiota


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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #3263199 - 10/22/04 01:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

They're all the same species...just different stages.

I'll get a spore print this weekend and see what shows up then.

Crazy bristly bumps on the caps when they're young.

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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3263211 - 10/22/04 01:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

See you got the whole pic taking deal mastered, great pics there. They do remind me of Armillarias also, im not too sure about mellea although mellea is actually a complex. The variety that i find from the east and see in my books seems to have less hairs/scales on the caps and is more of a yellowish color when young. Interesting, I wonder why they can vary so much from book to book - mabie I have been finding a different type of Armillaria.


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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: eris]
    #3263827 - 10/22/04 09:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Those are honey mushrooms, Armillaria mellea . As Eris said,  Armillaria mellea is a complex of species. I read somewhere that nine have be classified so far in the US. They can differ quite a bit in appearance, and I have found them growing from the ground as well as from live and dead wood. A key characteristic for ID is tiny erect black hairs at the center of the cap. I think they are a very tasty mushroom, but be sure to cook them well; ToxicMan reported that they are poisonous until cooked.

Nice find, enjoy. :laugh:


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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: shroomydan]
    #3263834 - 10/22/04 09:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!

I will have a small taste test to see if they agree with my tummy then.

I'd originally thought of Armillaria but the others I've found of them have been more orange/yellow in tone.  I guess because they're a complex they have a broad variety of traits.

Thanks for the help and feedback!

Thanks for the compliment eris!  :wink:

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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3263954 - 10/22/04 10:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A species complex is what they call it when they suspect that the mushrooms identified under a single name are actually several species. About 10 years ago the Honey Mushrooms were studied in detail and the Armillaria mellea complex was broken up into about 9 species. All of the various mushrooms that had been in the genus Armillaria but were not Honey Mushrooms were moved into other genera. Tom Volk (he was one of those doing the study) has kindly put a key to the genus on his web site at

http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/armkey.html


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Re: Any ideas on what these might be???? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3271133 - 10/24/04 01:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks toxicman! As always...appreciate your expertise and knowledge!

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