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Help get Shroomism out of jail.
    #3260885 -

I know this may be the wrong forum to post this propaganda, but this is where Shroomism is a moderator, and like many other members of the boards, this is sometimes the only forum I check.

Shroomism has been locked up obviously. You can check the details out in OTD. I strongly encourage anyone who is in a possition to help to please do so. Shroomism has reached out and touched many people here. This may be just my opinion, but it is one that I hold strong. I donated money today, money that was for rent. It was money I needed, but there is nothing that I NEED more than a loved one NEEDS to get out of jail. It is an awful place, while you may find some real interesting, wrongly accused people in jail, you will also find some of the foulest, and nastiest people too. If I were in his shoes, I would want someone to come through for me.

If the money never leaves the hands of the Shroomery, then from what I am told, It will be returned to you. Once money is given to the state, there is no saying what will really be done with it, but after trial the money SHOULD be returned to the Shroomery, and when that happens, will be returned to you.

I dont really know what I am trying to say, as I am not a spokesperson for Shroomism or the Shroomery... I was not involved at all, and kinda had the attitude "let someone else worry about it" or decided that "I would if I could, but this money is designated for other stuff already." Its not my job to deal with other people's problems...

I found love inside me, the love that is sometimes hard to find. The love for humanity and all living creatures. The love of being alive, and living life to its fullest potential. Sometimes this feeling is hard to find because of the everyday drama and stress. I am guilty of losing myself and almost falling into the rut. I wish I could help everyone on the planet, but I cant. But I can help a friend and a fellow spiritual explorer who also shares this love for life.

Click here for more information

As far as the people holding the money... If you know them, then you would be assured, but if my opinion matters to anyone then let me be the first to say that I trust my money with the shroomery, and do not think that anything bad would happen on thier part. If you have any questions about the finances, I am sure you can email or PM any of the admins and that can talk to you about it.


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The DJ's took pills to stay awake and play for seven days.

Edited by root-ninja-tak (10/21/04 03:36 PM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
    #3261057 -

I sent what I could afford (unfortunately not a lot, as my job doesnt pay very much)...even small amounts from many people add up, though.


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As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: psyka]
    #3261080 -

I agree, however many people donn't. This is what we see in our polls every 4 years too. Any small number can make a diffrence when combined with others like it.

Peace


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The DJ's took pills to stay awake and play for seven days.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
    #3261198 -

I could easily help him and would do so for most members, but as shroomism is a strong proponent of Karma and he stiffed me on a public bet, well you do the math.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Swami]
    #3261253 -

So you're saying that because he believes in karma you're going to help justify his beliefs for him? hehe.

13 bucks ain't much, but it's all my paypal account had in it.. and I can't afford to dip into much else right now, being as I just moved into my first apartment and am trying to scrape together cash as it is.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3261306 -

"Myself (XOIIAresIIOX), Adamist, and Shroomism were driving to a doctors appointment, when we were harassessed, intimidated, and pressured by the Belleview Police.
The cop used his very well sniffer to determine we had been smoking the illegal concealed substance, MARIJUANA..."

One should never drive after using an intoxicating substance. It sounds like he was given a break by the cop as he was not charged with DUI. Taking other people's lives into your hands on public highways after smoking dope ain't cool. Most people will think I am being a total asshole with this view, but I worked in public safety for many years. Anyway, a lot of people on this forum get busted from time to time, if you can't help them all then why do this?

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3261351 -

To be honest, I find being tired or angry to be a much bigger threat to driving than being high, so long as you aren't extreeemely high or anything.

Of course alcohol and stronger drugs are a much different story.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3261360 -

He wasn't stoned. From what I've heard, they hadn't smoked weed all day...which is why they are so pissed that the cop used the "I smell marijuana" excuse.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3261377 -

I am just referencing what was posted...I don't know the deal.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3261379 -

And I'm just setting things straight :wink:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3261391 -

Taking other people's lives into your hands on public highways after smoking dope ain't cool.  :thumbup:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
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an fyi fwiw:

a trusted friend confirmed by phone today that there is a fellow sitting in jail right now on possession charges in Florida with Shroomism's meat space name.

So I sent some money.

the hearing is only ten days from today but that's ten days too many, imo.

F the WOD.

:thumbup: root-ninja-tak

vote for john kerry

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Diploid]
    #3262417 -

You guys need to DROP this whole driving while stoned conversation...or at least take it to another thread! This definitely isn't S&P material. You've gone and derailed a thread made for a good friend of mine, as well as THE best moderator this forum has EVER had.

Keep this on topic, PLEASE.

(all the off-topic posts were moved to a thread in the pub called "driving while stoned")


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3262487 -

You just flat out deleted my last post which was NOT about driving and WAS on-topic. I get your drift..you want only the replies you agree with. You got no problems with alienating your users...that will make the forum thrive.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3262531 -

Huehue I didn't delete any posts, just moved the whole bottom section of the thread to The Pub.

Please don't take this out on me with the "you want only the replies you agree with" BS because you know that isn't true. If it was, there'd be a lot more posts ending up in The Dump :wink:


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3262552 -

It ain't there. It was right after Silversoul7's reply AND IT WAS on topic. When one sees that their post has vanished one can only assume the "BS" you speak of is true...besides why didn't you READ the posts instead of moving them without regard, for that is self defeating to your purpose. Anyway, I'm done here for now.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3262631 -

I did read them all before moving them. That's part of my job here, eh :wink:

I just double-checked the thread in the Pub to make sure it wasn't there...which it wasn't.

And I've found it! It got moved to the dump with two posts that were at the VERY end of the thread but had no content at all. I moved those two to the dump so they wouldn't be off-topic for a thread about smoking and driving. What probably happened was you were in the middle of posting while I was in the middle of moving. When I moved the last two posts, I did so by moving the second last post and any replies to that post (or replies to the replies). You were probably pressing "continue" just as I was pressing "move" :frown:

I am very sorry for that, hue, it was not done on purpose and if I had of seen your post I WOULD NOT have moved it to the dump.

Here's the text from the post I found:

"I was put in jail for a misdemeanor once, and I got out of it myself. I am a much more careful person for it. These guys ain't in Alcatraz; they'll find a way and maybe become wiser for it."


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3262643 -

I was just clarifying. You may have noticed that I am slightly picky.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: deff]
    #3262673 -

deff said:
To be honest, I find being tired or angry to be a much bigger threat to driving than being high, so long as you aren't extreeemely high or anything.


you've never been in the car w/ my friend driving high.


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
intr.v.
To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: TODAY]
    #3262689 -

Well I'm sure there's exceptions, I'm just speaking from personal opinion as well as the opinion of others I know.

Btw trendal - t'is completely understandable :smile:


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: deff]
    #3262945 -

a

Edited by matt (08/31/07 06:05 PM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #3262975 -

Quote:
mattzdope said:
And when there are 3 different bails.. It doesn't work like that.. You get one set amount. Not 3 seperate that you have to add up..:


Actually, I believe that this is dependent upon the jurisdiction. You're in New York, right? I'm not saying you're wrong, but that each state has it's own way of doing things.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Evolving]
    #3262999 -

a

Edited by matt (08/31/07 06:05 PM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #3263006 -

a


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m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.

Edited by matt (08/31/07 06:05 PM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3263372 -

You guys need to DROP this whole driving while stoned conversation...or at least take it to another thread! This definitely isn't S&P material.

Not that the drunk driving stuff is on topic, it isn't, but given that this is the Spirituality and Philosophy forum, what's on-topic about bailing someone out of jail? That he's a mod and your personal friend doesn't make it relevant to S&P.

If you're going to can parts of a thread that are irrelevant to the subject of the thread, then you should also can threads that are irrelevant to the forum.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Diploid]
    #3263426 -

My understanding is that he was in the back when they were pulled over so unless he he was steering the car with telekenisis I don't think he was driving under the influence of anything.

I really hope everything works out soon for him because jail is no place for a good person like him. Like trendal said, he's a hell of a moderator and a good guy. Our drug laws suck.


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I am what Willis was talkin' bout.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Diploid]
    #3263824 -

This thread is relevant to this forum because Shroomism is a moderator of this forum. If the same thing happened to any of our regular posters in S&P I would let a thread like this stay.


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3263897 -

Some of us are irregular.  :crazy:


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Swami]
    #3263911 -

Maybe you need more fiber in your diet :grin:

I just sent some cash to the shroomism fund. It's not much, but I've sent what I can.

Shroomism, my friend, we're rooting for ya!


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3264060 -

Trendal is right, none of us were intoxicated. I don't even think Shroomism himself had smoked that day, and he smokes pretty constantly. Plus, he wasn't even driving. So lay off. We were doing NOTHING wrong, in my opinion.

I g2g but I'll post more in this thread when I can. Good vibes... gives me hope.

:heart:


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Adamist]
    #3264079 -

Oh and this is obviously not a scam, you can find his mugshot and charges on the Marion County Jail website. So unless we hacked into a government website for the purpose of scamming fellow Shroomerites, you can rest your suspicions.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Adamist]
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I will help with the donation thing, but I also want to say that the good part is that if he does get convicted of something, or plea bargains, he will probably get time served, and then his stay in jail won't have been wasted. 

Jail sucks.  I was in jail once for about 10 days when I was 23.  I received 3 days off for being a good girl.  :grin:

Oh, and one other thing...I don't know what Florida is like with regard to bail, but here in CA, you find a bailbondsman and you pay him 10% that he gets to keep, and he puts up the whole bail.  So if Shroomism's bail is 5000, then you only need to come up with $500. 

Look for a bailbondsman.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Anyway, a lot of people on this forum get busted from time to time, if you can't help them all then why do this?


What if the money isn't used, anyways? Can we start a miscellaneous fund for things like this? I know, someone would have to regulate it, and I'm sure Shroomery doesn't want to be liable. But I wouldn't want back the money I gave. I would support my money going to a fund to help with things like this in the future.

Someone come and say why this isn't a good idea.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Frog]
    #3266117 -

The kind of trouble he is in is small. He is NOT a political prisoner as some here feel. He may be a good guy, but maybe he will learn to not go out cruising with pills and weed in his possesion...it just shows poor judgement.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Frog]
    #3266570 -

sticky


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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All persons locked up for non-violent drug "offenses" should be considered political prisoners. Perhaps Prisoner Of War would be a better term. After all, this is the War on Drugs...and aren't people you capture in a war POW's?


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: trendal]
    #3266689 -

All persons locked up for non-violent drug "offenses" should be considered political prisoners.  :thumbup:

In a hundred years, people will look back at this like we look back at witch hunts.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Adamist]
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Adamist said:
Oh and this is obviously not a scam, you can find his mugshot and charges on the Marion County Jail website. So unless we hacked into a government website for the purpose of scamming fellow Shroomerites, you can rest your suspicions.


I'm interested in pulling this information up, but without his name or anything like that, I can't do it... anyone have a link?

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: fireworks_god]
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Click on the band link in Shroomism's signiture. It'll take you to his band webpage and the names of the members are there somewhere...

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Frog]
    #3267001 -

you forget they need collaterall for the 90% they put up and they want cash or real estate.


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There's a thin line between sanity and insanity... and I just snorted it.

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: John]
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EllemyshShade said:
Click on the band link in Shroomism's signiture.  It'll take you to his band webpage and the names of the members are there somewhere...


All right, I did that, and found this:  Active Inmate Details

On our webpage for donations, it lists one charge of $5000 and two charges with $500 each... however, this page here lists one of those (marijuana possession) as $2000, bringing it to $7500 bail.....

When does he have court? Won't he end up going back to jail anyways? Will we be able to raise that much money? :confused: :frown:

If the point of getting him out before court was so he could take off out of state, I don't think it would be wise to find a bailbondsman, if they will be holding collateral.... and also, someone said he was being charged as a felon? If that is so, I don't exactly think it wise to try to leave the state....

:mad: This sucks.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Huehuecoyotl said:
The kind of trouble he is in is small. He is NOT a political prisoner as some here feel. He may be a good guy, but maybe he will learn to not go out cruising with pills and weed in his possesion...it just shows poor judgement.


Poor judgement? -- yes.

Police profiling? -- likely.

Illegal search? -- likely.

Political prisioner? -- do the math: Arrests & Incarceration

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: ]
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For those skeptics out there, please feel free to leave and think nothing of this. The people we are asking to donate are people who know Shroomism, and have been touched by him or the shroomery in the past. This is a great place with great people, and those who know it are those who are encouraged to help. I know many people here are not in a position to help and thats Okay. It is not your job to be responsible for others actions, it would just be a cool thing if you helped if you are able to.

Like stated above ... He was probably wrongfully arrested, yes. But it was a poor descision to drive with drugs. 99% of the time you might get away with it, especially if you are sober, minding your own business. . . But we all know the way the game is played. I hope this doesnt come as a supprise to anyone, because if it does then you are next. They say the best lessons are hardest learned. I hope everyone here takes a look at this and thinks next time before they "go to taco bell with just a 'lil bit o weed and a couple pills'" cause that little non-threatening car ride, minding your own business could turn into jail time and a criminal record. Its not fair, but its life. I also strongly encourage those of you who appose this kind of law to do something about it. Check your local NORML or write to the people who represent you, put presure on them. They will do whatever they want until they feel their people wont re-elect them. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and do something. I know so many good people who get in trouble for something petty like pot, and once classified as a "criminal" that breaks down all barriers for them. "If they say im a criminal, i guess i better start robbing people."

We need this bullshit to stop, and soon.

As far as this thread is concerned. I believe this to be the most appropriet place for it. I know there are others on this board like me, and by that I mean people who come here just for S&P. I dont have time to waste my life in OTD, and right now I do not cultivate mushrooms. My time is very limited and sometimes I just need S&P and nothing else. I think of this place as my home, and The Shroomery is the community in wich it resides. Sometimes I just want to lounge around home, and talk to my family instead of going into the chaotic streets of OTD, possibly getting mugged.

I offer my love to you all. Please be wise, you cannot be fair or you will get locked up for life. You cannot stoop down to thier level or you will get locked up for life. The only thing that will keep you free is knowledge. Thier centralized media cannot compete with the millions of individuals spreading information so freely. Stay 3 steps ahead of them, but put on that smiling face, and light some incense when they come to your door.


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The DJ's took pills to stay awake and play for seven days.

Edited by root-ninja-tak (10/23/04 06:35 AM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
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We should do everything we can, but is $7500 realistic when he is likely to get jail time anyways? We have $700 so far, and how much time do we have left? A few days? :confused: :frown:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: fireworks_god]
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If bail is not met, money will be returned to the donators, and not used for new Gucci clothes for the admins.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
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root-ninja-tak said:
If bail is not met, money will be returned to the donators, and not used for new Gucci clothes for the admins.


That isn't what I am asking, though. I mentioned nothing about money being returned. :grin:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
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I'M JUST HERE TO GET MY BABY OUT OF JAIL
(Karl Davis / Harty Taylor)

I'm not in this town to stay
Said a lady old and grey
I'm just here to get my baby out of jail
Yes, warden, I'm just here to get my baby out of jail

I will wash all your clothes
I will scrub all your clothes
If that will get my baby out of jail
Yes, warden, I'm just here to get my baby out of jail

I will pawn you my watch
I will pawn you my chain
I will pawn you my gold diamond ring
Yes, warden, I'm just here to get my baby out of jail

When those gates swung wide apart
She held her darling to her heart
She kissed her baby boy and then she died
Yes, warden, in the arms of her dear boy there she died
Yes, warden, in the arms of her dear boy there she died

:cthulhu: :kodama:

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: ]
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I agree that the drug laws are stupid and extreme, but as long as people continue to demonstrate that they cannot use wisdom in regard to these substances the laws will not change. I personally think all drugs should be legal...if people want to screw up their lives with pills and needles I say let them. The penalty for endangering others with them should be VERY INTENSELY severe however. There is no reason to not leave these things at home when out in an automobile. I have worked with in public safety and in cooperation with the police for enough years to know that if you are carting the stuff around in a car it is because you have used it or are going to while you are out.


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Edited by Huehuecoyotl (10/23/04 10:20 PM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: John]
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John said:
you forget they need collaterall for the 90% they put up and they want cash or real estate.


Good point. I forgot.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Frog]
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Shroomism should be glad he was busted in Florida and not in CA. I know someone who was busted with a piece of meth the size of your fingernail, and a pipe. He wasn't high at the time he was busted. No priors, not even a traffic ticket, at the age of 26. His bail was $20,000.00.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Frog]
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Frog said:
Shroomism should be glad he was busted in Florida and not in CA. I know someone who was busted with a piece of meth the size of your fingernail, and a pipe. He wasn't high at the time he was busted. No priors, not even a traffic ticket, at the age of 26. His bail was $20,000.00.


But we're talking weed here, not meth. Aren't small amounts of weed basically decriminalized here?


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: silversoul7]
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Yeah, good point. I think less than an ounce is either an infraction or a misdemeanor or something like that. Cited and released.

But possession of meth can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony. I don't think that possession of a small amount should indicate a felony.

I guess my point is that when someone isn't hurting anyone, and isn't driving around all high and stuff, the bail shouldn't be set so high, even when it is something like meth.


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wtf [Re: Frog]
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You clearly have enough money to get a bondsman. I used to live in FL and I'm pretty sure that if you had under an ounce its only a misdemeanor. I once got arrested with almost an ounce and was released the next day.

Edited by BuddahKillah (10/27/04 05:42 PM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: silversoul7]
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But we're talking weed here, not meth. Aren't small amounts of weed basically decriminalized here?

According to NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), the following are the penalties in Florida for possession:

20g or less = Misdemeanor; up to 1 year and $5000
More then 20g = Felony; up to 5 years and $5000

Sale and cultivation goes up from there. A list of the assorted penalties for marijuana possession for each state is online at their web site at:

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4530

By the way, I think one of the reasons drug laws suck so bad is that the busybodies who don't have a life and don't want you to have one either spend a lot of their time and money pushing anti-drug laws.

The rest of us who adopt a live-and-let-live attitude toward others are mostly content to keep our nose and money out of other people's business.

The problem with this is that it biases political motivation against us because the only side actively pushing their agenda is the busybodies who can't stand to leave the rest of us alone.

One very easy and very effective way to fight back is to donate to organizations dedicated to our cause.  Shroomery currently has 25,000+ registered members.  If even 10% of us donate the cost of one joint each, to NORML, it would go a long way toward helping repeal these oppressive, draconian laws.

NORML is a 501(c)(3) non-profit founded in 1997. Their team of lawyers and lobbyists have done more than any other organization to push for decriminalization and they deserve our support.

Their suggested contribution is $25, but trust me, they need and will gladly accept anything you can give them no matter how small or large an amount you can afford.  They take PayPal, credit cards, check, money orders, and even cash.

Complaining about these laws isn't gonna change them; if you're serious about doing your part to improve things, donate to NORML at:

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3454  :thumbup:

Edited by Diploid (10/29/04 01:28 AM)

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: tak]
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For those skeptics out there, please feel free to leave and think nothing of this. The people we are asking to donate are people who know Shroomism, and have been touched by him or the shroomery in the past.

What about those of us whom he has fucked out of large sums of money while espousing the clear nature of karma? Should we be sympathetic and caring to a cheat and a liar? Words are cheap. Living your own teachings are another matter. Had he honored his promise I would be helping him out now as we speak.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Swami]
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I'm willing to bet an undisclosed sum of money that you have probably donated to the fund.  :grin:


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Swami]
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I'm sorry if I 'fucked anyone over out of large sums of money' for being poor. One day when/if I have money in any kind of abundance I will of course spread it to those who need.

Misinformation aside, we weren't smoking in the car, the cop profiled us, and illegally searched us. I was just bonded out about 6 hours ago.

Thanks to my friends at the shroomery, I don't have to rot in jail until February with a public pretender.

Thank you all for all your support, it means so much to me  :heart:


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Shroomism]
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So tell us what happened?

Your bail was set at about $7000 last time I heard from the Pub.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: psyka]
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I wrote most of the details in the pub..
$7,500 from what I heard.. I'll know for sure in the morning.
Basically I was a victim of the drug war and the injustice of police, although I am not justifying my carrying drugs. If anything I learned to hide them better, and/or not be in such a fascist place. I make no apologies for possessing 3 grams of the world's safest plant and 4 mild muscle relaxers, I wasn't smoking it in the car nor was I driving and I certainly wasn't doing anyone any harm, it's the drug laws and police profiling which is wrong here. The police had no right to stop us and certainly no right to search us and the vehicle which he did against our wills. I got bonded out tonight and now just have to stick around this godforsaken county until my court dates and avoid being put on probation with all my might.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Shroomism]
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should have ate them muscle relaxers.
ive learned to act quick when freedom patrol is on the case.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: SubGen1us]
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yeah well at the time I thought nothing of them.. I was more worried about the weed I had. I had them in the same container as some advil.. I'm not used to being violated by police officers and I certainly didn't think they would charge me with a felony for a couple flexorals. yeah should have acted quicker.. I know better now.. learned my lesson thats for sure.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Shroomism]
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Well, I think the most important thing to make sure of is having that felony charged bumped down a notch, if it takes some negotiating or whatever, because you do not want to be a felon. :frown:

Even if you end up with more jail-time or even probation - in the long run, it would be worth it, you definitely do not want to be a felon.

I'm also curious if the state really can give you probation, requiring that you stay within the state or even county, if you do not reside there and you can prove residency in another state. That might be a thing to look into....

You could always skip state, but I doubt the person who put up that collateral would be very happy... :wink:

Perhaps the Shroomery could organize some sort of event in conjuntion with other organizations to protest or something. :laugh: This county seems to be one of the worst on drugs, I think we need to flood them with a thick, unpenetrable fog of pot smoke. :lol:

Once again, good luck, man, you're invaluable to this community, the revolution, humankind, and, most importantly,  metal. :headbang: :mushroom2:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: fireworks_god]
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Canada should take over :laugh:


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
I'm also curious if the state really can give you probation, requiring that you stay within the state or even county, if you do not reside there and you can prove residency in another state. That might be a thing to look into....



Here in CA, if you get probation and community service and stuff, you can complete it in another state. You just have to send proof to the court.


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Re: Help get Shroomism out of jail. [Re: Shroomism]
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Oh, and glad you're out, Shroomism.  :grin:


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