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Offlinebittercap
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Salvia?
    #3258953 - 10/21/04 12:19 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hi,
I bought an ounce of salvia leaves. I have a good torch lighter and water pipe. However this stuff does not do anything. It makes me real hot and dizzy. The smoke is rather harsh too.

I think it is some scam, but I read some people have a hard time with it? Any ideas? It's rather expensive and I can find much better things to do than this.

Peace

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3258962 - 10/21/04 12:22 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Just the leaves aren't gonna do shit unless you smoke a whole lot of them. You need to buy salvia extract, like 10x

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Re: Salvia? [Re: discoabe]
    #3258980 - 10/21/04 12:27 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

All right, I read that leaves work with some people. Erowid has a tech on how to do it with leaves. I will get some extract and smoke it on the leaves.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3258991 - 10/21/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Or extract the leaves. And the leaves certainly do work for some people, others require at least 5x.

And leaves, expensive? since when? Last I saw an ounce was like 15 bucks.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3258992 - 10/21/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

The reason I started with leaves was because I read the active dose is quite low and it is easy to do too much and have a bad experience.

Peace

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3258993 - 10/21/04 12:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Soak them in some warm water for a few minutes...not too long just enough to soften them up.
Take a huge amount of leaves and roll them up into a quid, or kinda like a small fat cigar.
Stick the whole mass in your mouth and chew gently...dont cruch or tear em up just kinda work it around in your mouth.
switch sides and turn it over every so often.
Takes alot of leaves. I spit the juice out after my mouth is so full it starts leaking out... :smile:
goodluck.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3258997 - 10/21/04 12:33 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

It cost me about 50 bucks bro, I coulda got a quarter of decent mids for that. Since it will probably be scheduled soon I felt I had to try it once.

Peace

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3258998 - 10/21/04 12:34 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

If you got enough salvia of a decent quality you WILL trip from a quid.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #3259022 - 10/21/04 12:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I guess I'll give a quid a try as smoking them don't do much for me.

It said oaxacan leaf at a head shop, could be they fucked me. They only had 5 grams of extract for like $150 and for that much I could get some blueberries :-)

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3259071 - 10/21/04 01:09 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Or you could do a easy alchohol extraction if you are not in a hurry. Maybe both if you have enough?
Next time buy from Iamshaman.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #3259098 - 10/21/04 01:21 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

well, as I understand the mazatecs used fresh leaves in a quid. I am willing to grow this plant if I like it. I read on how to extract it as well, I am in no hurry at all, I am not jonsin' to get high :-) I am curious what it is like, but only if the plant is willing to show itself to me. Extract is rather dangerous, the active dose is really low and high doses are just disociative trips from what I read. I am cautious about things anyways.

Peace

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3259245 - 10/21/04 02:53 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I bought an ounce of leaves for 11 bucks online. It doesnt affect a lot of people but I had a nice time. I didnt breakthrough but I have had closed eye visuals from them. I smoked 2 entire bowls of it in 2 hits (one hit per bowl) and it got me going pretty nice. Anyway, I havent tried the extraction so I can not tell you to get it, but I hear it hits pretty much everyone.


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Re: Salvia? [Re: AaronEvil]
    #3259470 - 10/21/04 05:23 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've been curious about Salvia since I first heard about it a long time ago.  Recently I've read a lot of articles, information, and trip reports from it.  I am very curious now and need to try it.  I've been tinkering with the idea of purchasing some 5x and 10x extract.  I have a couple of friends who also want to try Salvia as well, but they are far less informed.

I say you do an extraction on some of the leaves you have left, and then just mix it with a couple leaves and smoke it then let us know if you got anything from it.

I'm glad to see you treat this drug respectfully as Salvia can really take someone for a ride if they do not treat the lady with respect.  Respect your drugs and they'll respect you back for it :wink:

- Silven


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Re: Salvia? [Re: Silven]
    #3259606 - 10/21/04 07:27 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is certainly a one of a kind experince. The first time i tried it i got some 12x from a local head shop, went to a friend of a friends house and used they're water bong. i took one huge hit, held for about 15-20 seconds and when i went to sit down the bong i slammed it into the floor because my depth perception was instantly completly gone. everyone was moving like a strobe light was on, but they're was no strobe light. I told myself i was dreaming because it couldnt be possible that i just got that fucked up off something legal.
In short lady salvia is a very strong teacher. do not take her lightly and do not try it if you are alone.DO NOT TRY IT ALONE YOUR FIRST TIME.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: NEW2SHROOMS420]
    #3259676 - 10/21/04 08:05 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

man i bought that crap one time i dunno i didnt really like it too much. i dunno mabye its cayse after about the 3rd time i did it i would always sweat a shit load and feel all itchy like i was wet and rolling around in the grass for a few hours u gotta hold the smoke in for mad long too im like hyperventelating trying to hold my breath.. final word... i still have some that will probally never get touched

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Re: Salvia? [Re: insanity_420]
    #3259899 - 10/21/04 09:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia may not do anything first few times, then all of a sudden BAM, head isn't head anymore :wink:

The best method IMO is a small water bong with a large bowl, fill up bowl, add lighter and wave bye-bye to kansas Dorothy.


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Re: Salvia? [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #3260478 - 10/21/04 01:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hey ho,
I made a quid. It is QUITE vile tasting, I resisted the urge to vomit everytime I rolled it around my mouth. I chewed on it for about 15 mins total.

The experience was pleasent. Did not get blasted, but I had some intense visuals and cereberal experiences. I kept seeing jungles and mazatec indians and plants and strange alien cities. So I guess Salvia is for real after all.

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Re: Salvia? [Re: bittercap]
    #3260807 - 10/21/04 03:10 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah. when you take a couple of those harsh tokes the first time you're thinking "i hope this isn't bullshit like that 5-MEOW gag," but the first time you feel the ether riple and drain into a whirlpool of impossible dimensions you know you've found something special.


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Re: Salvia? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3261926 - 10/21/04 07:21 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

best way to do leaves is a quid look it up ive never tried it its a longer more spiritual tri pthough have fun

-mike


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Re: Salvia? [Re: phantasm]
    #3263013 - 10/21/04 10:55 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

quid is definitively the way to go...why do you think mazatecs don't smoke it ?
Because they don't know fire ?  :wink:

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