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    #3251062 - 10/19/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Should be getting some soon, anything I should know? I've read around and it seemed and I have heard alot of good things.


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3251067 - 10/19/04 10:26 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Leaf or extract?

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Re: Kratom [Re: Organic]
    #3251071 - 10/19/04 10:27 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

leaf


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3251081 - 10/19/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

You won't regret that you bought it.


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3251083 - 10/19/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

grind it up real real fine. the leaf seems to take a loooong time to fully break down in your body. if its lasting too long, eat something fibrous to help push the plant material through you. 8g of leaf sometimes lasted all day when taken in the morning, and I would wake up high the next morning and throughout most of the day until I had a heavy meal.

good stuff though, I hope you enjoy :smile:

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Re: Kratom [Re: Organic]
    #3251091 - 10/19/04 10:36 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

:grin: thank you


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3251131 - 10/19/04 10:52 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i got 4ozs yesterday and tried it for the first time.i ground up 5 grams at first and poured the powder in the middle of a peanut butter sandwich and ate it ate 3:30 yesterday.at the 1 hour mark i could tell i was speeding quiet nicely.i then took 3 more grams and boiled the leaves for 45minutes and drank the bitter juice'blaah'.at the 3 hour mark i started slowing down and getting the feeling i was gonna puke.i jumped up and poped a dramimine.i set still for another hour and the bad feeling passed.today i feel hungover bigtime and i'm still real tired.i have a strong urge to do more 2nite but i know i don't need to.i have mixed feelings about this plant,kind of like the physical effects of kratom.expect mixed feelings.


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3251357 - 10/19/04 12:00 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Dont do too much.
Too much for me ended up being 2 tablespoons.
I felt like I was having an opium overdose, mixed with meth.
Not fun at all.
On the otherhand, a little under 1 tablespoon full is just right for me and feels great.
I just eat it with some warm peppermint tea.
So much easier than any extractions or teas, and works just as well IMO.


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Re: Kratom [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #3253231 - 10/19/04 08:13 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I'm thinking of either buying the dried kratom leaf or the wild lettuce resin extract. Which would you say is better and how do they differ?


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Re: Kratom [Re: mushiemountain]
    #3253499 - 10/19/04 09:03 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Kratom all the way.
It is a powerful drug for sure...
They dont compare at all IMO....its like taking a asprin compared to oxycotin.


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Re: Kratom [Re: quarkyquasar]
    #3253533 - 10/19/04 09:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

How do they differ though in effects and duration?


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Re: Kratom [Re: mushiemountain]
    #3255408 - 10/20/04 09:31 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Wild lettuce=Short lived almost placebo high. About 30 min.

Kratom=Long lasting, euphoric and energetic ally. Can last over a day but you can dose it to last as little as 3 hours.

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Re: Kratom [Re: Organic]
    #3256387 - 10/20/04 01:57 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't call kratom long lasting, it's rather short lasting, at least for me. My friends feel the same way.

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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3256406 - 10/20/04 02:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

mushiemountain : wild lettuce sucks.. kratom is the real deal.

gd, where did ya get this from? and do ya have any opioid tolerance right now?
you'll have a good time with it, im sure. it's good stuff.


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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
    #3257000 - 10/20/04 04:15 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

iamshaman


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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
    #3257003 - 10/20/04 04:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

no opiate tolearnce (right now anyway)


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3257354 - 10/20/04 05:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

ah, cool man. i usually buy from there also. yeah, so you'll probably be able to feel it at around 2-5 grams. i, myself, would go for about 5-8 grams or so with no tolerance. but it could vary.. more or less.. so it depends..


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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
    #3257379 - 10/20/04 05:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

cool, how do you useually prep it? just make a tea?


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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
    #3257389 - 10/20/04 05:31 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I also got some Kanna and a few other things, dabble around see what I like.


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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
    #3257424 - 10/20/04 05:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hey All,
I am also getting my Kratom in a few days. My question is:

I have heard that low doses of Kratom tend to produce stimulant effects, while the effects of higher doses can be compared to those of opiates.
As one takes equal to or over the dosage point where the euphoric / opiate effects become apparent (vs. just the stimulant effects), do the stimulant effects persist/become stronger? In other words if someone takes a strong enough dose will they feel more opiated than stimulated, or simultaneously opiated and quite strongly stimulated?

TIA


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