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Offlinehyphae
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: neverlast01]
    #3257411 - 10/20/04 07:35 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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neverlast01 said:
  As another tip I would try to keep the environment changing throughout the day (humid to semi-humid, light to dark, warm to warmer, etc.).


Mushrooms do not do well with a changing environment, 6T (Mycota) as well as others have found this out the hard way. Shrooms love non-fluctuating environments so they can deal with the work at hand (reproducing) not acclimating to a changing environments. FYI GL and welcome! :cool: :thumbup:


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: hyphae]
    #3257425 - 10/20/04 07:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

No I did no such thing Sir

I simply said that pins will happen with fanning alone. I see it in my grows often. I am a part time grower and other times very seriuos and dedicated to doing things right. Sometimes I just get lazy. I have never had any cake never pin. They all pin. To say you must have all three triggers to produce pins is not true.

There are the right ways and the lazy ways. You are right consistant pin set require good pinning stragety. But to say they won't pin at all without it is false.


If this was true then please explain how Invetro pinning works??


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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3257444 - 10/20/04 07:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

thank you hyphae


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Offlinehyphae
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3257462 - 10/20/04 07:47 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The point of these forums is to teach success not knit pick moot points. Any one here want to learn mycology or just come to argue? Raise your hands! You are simply throwing in a monkey wrench fucknuckle. It is not welcome bro. I respect you! Please respect what I'm trying to do here please! We want newbies here to have prolific flushes don't you?


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: hyphae]
    #3257482 - 10/20/04 07:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Yes I do. I would like all newbees to be sucessful

But I also have some sort of respect for the truth

And truth is not picking. What you said was't true


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Offlinehyphae
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3257552 - 10/20/04 08:04 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Case in point we need to help a certain someone here and I've seen cakes which would not pin for nothing with 4hrs. of light exposure explode with pins after being exposed to 12-16hrs of light duration now you would think 1/2 milisecond would be enough but not always! So we're trying to troubleshoot this guys problem. I know for a fact that jars pin invitro with high co2 levels but I'm not going to point that out everytime either it just doesn't help the cause. I have a lot of respect for you and your opinion fucknuckle what I said may not be totally true you are correct but what I was trying to do was true from my heart and that is to help this guy.


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
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Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: hyphae]
    #3257613 - 10/20/04 08:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I know you are one of the best guys around the grow forums that is why you made Moderator

Please don't think I am fronting you off. Sometimes it may seem that way.

I have total respect for you

Your the best


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Offlinehyphae
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3257727 - 10/20/04 08:40 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I hear what your saying but that would sabotage all that Paul Stamets, Jeremy Bigwood, Oss & Oeric, Stephen Peele, as well as dozens of other myco pioneers have worked so hard to accomplish. Bottom line mushrooms have set parameters things can happen outside these parameters but results will be less than desired. We're a community here and I'd like to think we look out for eachother and I think you are a valuable asset to this community so with that said lets spread the word ok? GL Bro  :thumbup: :hippie:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Offlinescatmanrav
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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: hyphae]
    #3258380 - 10/20/04 11:49 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I agree. When people are asking for help I don't think everyone wants the minimum. No one cares if they eventually will or wont pin. The point of this post is the person was sitting 8 days no pins. Utilizing proper triggers can minimize the time your sitting there. Why not do things right? To much info is being spread around on how to do things half assed..forget what will work and start doing what your should to give you want you want out of your grow. If someone has a problem with they're cakes not pinning after 8 days don't just tell them to wait longer, make sure their triggers are optimized first and if so, then still wait. That's how you really help people..


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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3259656 - 10/21/04 09:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks you guys...especially Hyphae.

Yeah, there not bastards, there my babies, I'm just a little frustrated with the waiting. Mushroom cultivation I find very labour intesive, and after all the effort and waiting so far, I just want these mushroom yeilds to be optimal.

A qustion about light. At present they are getting dim natural light for aprox 8-9hours. Would using an artificial light high in the bluee spectrum make any difference or not?

Anyway.......will keep you informed of progress, poss some pictures too!

Thanks guys! :cheers:


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Re: Why wont these bastards pin? [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3259834 - 10/21/04 11:18 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry.. a bit off topic...

I know I had a splendid result with my first grow. But it's not all about success, though I tend to tell success stories more, because I think success came from good advices from the community. Technically, my first grow grow would be BU which was slightly packed and had a hard time colonizing. Took me 2 days to find better ways. I then learned from it and moved on, isolating and sticking with what works best. Without mentioning failures, I think it does put a lot of newcomers in despair when they don't see the optimum results right away.

I think it's healthy that we have few errant comments now and then, so this type of discussion can be explored.

I know for the past months, everyone had taught me something valuable. Thanx for all the successful methods and those not so successful methods.

I'm glad to see that no one is taking "I disagree" to the heart. I think all of us have a lot more to learn as cultivation process gets refined.

With that said... I think, if you are going to be technical and point out something, please do so with conditions it'll follow. If it's one of those "it will work also", then also specify "best, better, about the same, worse, barely". The procedures to explore lower limits is only going to take us backwards. We need to move ahead and find easy, practical and most successful methods. There is a balance of three we can explore to move ahead. That's where experience should take us.

Well... that's just what I think.

Sam


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