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Offlinekadakuda
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Ephedra Dose?
    #3254769 - 10/20/04 03:42 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Erowid tells you in mg the amount or ephedrine is a dose.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ephedrine/ephedrine_dose.shtml

but i cant find anywhere how much ephedrine is in ephedra plants... 

is there a common dose of raw ephedra?  or does anyone knwo where i can find plant %?

thanks :smile:


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3255104 - 10/20/04 08:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I assume you are already aware of some of the dangers ephedrine usage can cause? I would recommend either doing an extraction or making a tea.

The percentage of alkaloid to weight of plant material varies from plant to plant but it is generally between the ranges of 1-2% ( dry weight )


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3255483 - 10/20/04 11:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

couple of notes:

remember, in traditional chinese medicine, Ephedra sinica (mao herb, ma huang) is not used as a stimulant, or even as a decongestant, but is used to induce diaphoresis (sweating)...

different species will have different alkaloid profiles; also environmental conditions, plant genetics, and even harvesting and drying methods can have an effect as well... the american plant E nevadensis (teamster tea; mormon tea) seems to have mostly pseudoephedrine...

it is possible that the nodes on the whole dried plant material may have high concentrations of a "4-subtitiuted" compound, & thus sorta related to the nasty psychedelic-amph, PMA... & may be associated with convulsions & hyperthemia, etc...

there are a few fairly easy methods for extracting "crude alkaloid salts (effie, sud-effie, whatever) from the dried plant material... although what anybody would do with a hundred grams of ephedrine, i just don't even wanna know...


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: gnrm23]
    #3257408 - 10/20/04 07:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

better off buying the pills, i've tried ephedra from numerous vendors (eventually at outrageous doses) and have gotten more energy from xanax. <-satire-but point is it sucks and a lot of other people report the same.


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3257744 - 10/20/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What's up man? When I make the tea I usually just sprinkle enough across the bottom of the coffie cup to cover it. Use enough so that it works but not so much that it tastes bitter.


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #3262057 - 10/21/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for the info.  i was in the states last year (didnt know shit about ephedra or even heard of it then) and we couldnt keep our eyes open on the long drives (went for a couple days straight).  anyway after wasting ungodly amounts of money on all sorts of energy drinks there we came to eugene oregon and the guy suggested these energy pills.  i asked what this ephedra crap was on the labell and he simply said "legal speed".  good enough bout the box and had a shit load.  i was dizzy and horribly sick the next day but they certainly delivered what they promised.  got to where we were going without being tired at all...it was like a HUGE caffien buzz that lasted for ever, followed by a fucked up hangover.

anywho, thanks to john, i got some raw herb that i wanna try.  thanks again john!

and thanks for the info!

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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3262478 - 10/21/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I hate 2-ways and all of that shit. I like the tea though. I feel you on the horrible hangover!


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #3263093 - 10/22/04 01:14 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

2-ways?


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3265665 - 10/22/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Best stuff in the world for congested sinus...best taken in OO caps.

375 mg plant material = about 3.75-7.5 mg ephedra alkaloids

Do not exceed 100mg ephedra alkaloids in a 24 hr. period for up to 12 weeks.

Do not use if you have heart disease, high blood pressure, thyroid disease, diabetes, or difficulty in urination.

Do not combine with MAO inhibitors.

I am not a doctor, hope this helps :tongue2:


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3266654 - 10/23/04 02:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If you went to a highschool in the U.S. you would probably know what they are. They are to ephedra what Kleenex is to facial tissues. You didn't miss out though don't worry.. :penis:


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3269821 - 10/24/04 01:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ephedra has recentally been banned but it is still obtainable. When take safely, is can be very beneficial for weaightloss to deconjestion to energy. By stackers contained 25mg of ephedra extract. Yellow jackets contain 40mg. If you want to try and eat the raw material, I would guess it would cause much discomformt. Mcuh like eating a Ayahuasca root to aquire the the affects of DMT.

My recommendations are either extract, or even better get the capsules. Makin the tea is OK if you can tolerate the taste..and even then, you gotta put quite a suffecient amound of content in there to aquire a dose.
Good luck, and stay below 50mg whatever you do


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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #11596784 - 12/06/09 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: wheremybitches]
    #11596793 - 12/06/09 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Re: Ephedra Dose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #11596897 - 12/06/09 05:16 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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