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Offlineflecktone
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spores on cakes...
    #3254288 - 10/19/04 11:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've got 4 Equador cakes that have gone thru a few flushes now and are looking a bit dry... what are the differences, or advantages/disadvantages, to either cold shocking/dunking or injecting water into the cakes? I've read about both but dont know which works best. Also, one cake has alot of spores on it that dropped from the last flush (i couldnt get to harvesting until after the fact...), and im concerned about cold shock/dunking that one... what do you all think? thnx

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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: flecktone]
    #3254325 - 10/19/04 11:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

don't cold shock, it'll just slow down the mycelium's momentum at this point. dunking wouldn't be a bad idea though, just dunk them for 12 hours in room temps in 10 parts water/1 part h2o2.


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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3254328 - 10/19/04 11:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

oh, and don't worry about the spores. i've dunked casings with spores dropped on them without any problems. good luck!


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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3254351 - 10/19/04 11:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

...what do you know about injecting water in the cakes? a friend told me that was good too...

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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: flecktone]
    #3254390 - 10/20/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yeah.. cold shocking should be only used at birth to slow down the mycelium growth. It'll help the cake/casing switch over to generative cycle. Coldshock casing at birth, not before casing. Seems like a minor detail, but you want to case and let it grow a bit before you tell it to make you shrooms.

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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: flecktone]
    #3254391 - 10/20/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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flecktone said:
...what do you know about injecting water in the cakes?  a friend told me that was good too...



just dunk them in the fridge for 8-12hrs before every flush and enjoy the extra shrooms!

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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: george castanza]
    #3254403 - 10/20/04 12:05 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

why cold shock?

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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3254422 - 10/20/04 12:08 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, why cold shock between flushes?


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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: george castanza]
    #3254445 - 10/20/04 12:13 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

if you must inject them i would use that 1 tek that goes like this:



        vvvvvvvvvvvv
        vvvvvvvvvvvv
        ssssssssssssss
        ssssvvivvsssss
        ssssvvivvsssss
        ssssvvivvsssss
        ssssvvivvsssss
        ssssssssssssss
        ssssssssssssss
v=verm...i=verm
s=substrate
you get the idea.....
you can cut of the end of the syringe to make the perfect round mini-verm-water-chamber
insert moist verm
dry verm layer on top as usual...
inject after every flush:thumbup:
dunking seems way easier to me :tongue2:
hope this helps....


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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3254530 - 10/20/04 12:37 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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AhronZombi said:
why cold shock?



why not?


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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: george castanza]
    #3254531 - 10/20/04 12:37 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hey george, there is no need to coldshock, even if you are going to case it. As a matter of a fact, it would be more harmful at this point. You want the broken up mycelium to grow(incubate) which requires the mycelium to change from generative to growth cycle. If you degrade that tiny bit of growth that's left in the cake, you are just going to lengthen the incubation time.

No offense, George, but I'm sticking to no coldshocking whether he he dunks as cakes or dunk then case them.

Good luck

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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: Sam1912]
    #3254561 - 10/20/04 12:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard from multiple sources that it is ideal to leave the dunk in the fridge not necessarily to cold shock, but because the drop in temp makes it harder for contams to get a hold.


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Re: spores on cakes... [Re: Sam1912]
    #3254573 - 10/20/04 12:51 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Sam1912 said:
Hey george, there is no need to coldshock, even if you are going to case it.  As a matter of a fact, it would be more harmful at this point.  You want the broken up mycelium to grow(incubate) which requires the mycelium to change from generative to growth cycle.  If you degrade that tiny bit of growth that's left in the cake, you are just going to lengthen the incubation time. 

No offense, George, but I'm sticking to no coldshocking whether he he dunks as cakes or dunk then case them.

Good luck

Sam



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