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poppy tea experiences?
    #3254203 - 10/20/04 01:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

A friend of mine just got a bunch of poppy pods (30) Does anyone have any experience making tea, and have any general advice on how powerful it is? Thanks!


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Buddha5254]
    #3254220 - 10/20/04 01:26 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Power depends on dose, and you can OD fairly easily, so be careful.

When i made mine, i boiled em for about 20 minutes, strained, and drank.
The good thing about tea is it's fairly easy to control your dose.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Buddha5254]
    #3254235 - 10/20/04 01:28 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

5 pods MAX... if they are large, start with 2-3... SIMMER, don't boil( keep it right below boiling temp)


add a little honey for taste


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3254564 - 10/20/04 02:48 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Used 7 medium pods. This made 3 tablespoons of ground powder. From what I've read this is not a big dose, it was quite effective though.

Water was brought to a boil, the heat turned off, and the powder dumped in. DEFINATELY did not boil the powder like Randolph Carter.

Kept stirring for a while, I forget how long, until it cooled a bit, no more steam, etc. maybe 10-15 minutes max. It never completely dissolves, but it begins to mix fairly well.

Poor through a straining cloth, squeeze the hell out of it, and discard that nasty pulpy stuff. And you're left with assy tasting tea. Screw lemon, unless you only use a little bit. Makes it more annoying to drink and doesn't help the taste much. A little bit of honey smoothened it out for me though.

Anyway, this worked incredibly well.

As far as choosing how many pods. Keep in mind the size, and source and all. If you have 30, randomly pick a certain amount. Or, better yet grind them all up into a homogenous powder. 3 table spoons of this powder did it for me. But use your brain and judge your own product for yourself. Better use to little than too much.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3256456 - 10/20/04 04:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey thanks everybody! That helped a lot, so how long/intense were the effects. I smoked opium a long time ago (actually one time) and it wasnt too intense. Can anyone tell me what to expect? Thanks!


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Buddha5254]
    #3256473 - 10/20/04 04:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well, takes about an hour to come on, aftwerwards I'd say a feeling of niceness throughout the body, will feel really high for an hour or two, but it will start to level off, you'll probably feel lazy and itchy for pretty much the rest of the day.  Expect a great night sleep and having a hard time getting out of bed in the morning.  Might also experience some stomach grumblings and cramps, but shouldn't last very long or bother you.  Might not take a dump for two days afterwards, so do your business before dosing.  I think that sums up the physiological effects, but I can't really detail a poppy high till you've done it, hope this helps :thumbup:


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: biglo]
    #3256581 - 10/20/04 04:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

A really great way to make the tea is with an expresso maker. It takes about 5 minutes that way from start to finish. There should be no problem with boiling poppy pods. I've heard about people boiling it down to a paste before. An expresso maker exposes it to the least heat anyway. I used 3 tablespoons and it was too strong. I puked all night but other than being sick it was fine. Started off with euphoria but the nausea ruined it.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #3257240 - 10/20/04 07:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

start off with a few (3-5 pods) and see what that does. if you feel that dose was comfortable then up to about 7-9 pods. 7-9 or 7-10 should be a pretty decent experience, unless your pods suck. it would be unwise to start with anything higher considering you don't know its potency. be careful to not go crazy with dosage...overdose can occur. whatever you do, save your seeds! plant in late winter/ early spring...to see what real poppy tea is all about. nothing's better than freshly cut pods...the flavor is incredible.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Psilostylin]
    #3258460 - 10/21/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

5:05

Spymoose1 and I imbibe 1.5 cups of 3 pod solution each

5:06

Spymoose1 adds more honey to compinsate for bitterness

5:07

honey makes little difference

5:09

I put on some music: band of bees, turning on the fan... woo its hot!

5:14

Im feeling a bit heavy.

5:20

Spymoose1 feels a bit S L O W.

5:24

Todcasil is salivating a lot... slight hesitation with movent/thought
reaction. yeeah

5:47

feel a bit out of sorts... (spymoose1) voice is scratchy (sign of opiate action!)

felt great all day... until about 10 o clock at night...

spymoose1 drank a beer at 11 long after effects were dwindled, felt urgently sick.

all in all a good experience.

(note at higher pod doses, some intestinal discomfort).


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Todcasil]
    #3258474 - 10/21/04 12:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

BTW

i ground pods up in a coffee grinder and brought water to a boil.

when i took the water off the heat, is when i added pod powder, then it was steeped for the alloted time (10-15 minutes usually)

we then strain the liquid from the powder and drink up.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Todcasil]
    #3258491 - 10/21/04 12:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

here is my favorite report (hehe, sorry for posting in your thread so much, but this was a funny one)

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7 pods ground up with the rest of the minis (approx 41)

boiled down twice, into the liquid of one chalice.


10 mins eating i feel euphoria

30 mins into... pain killing action has begun...

40 ,oms/.... same as before

1 hr 10 mins... feeling awesome. hardcore opiate action...
fuzzy, buzzy, and in the womb... got a smile on my face...
cranky when disturbed, but all round in a great mood.

~

that was it. :p


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Buddha5254]
    #3272975 - 10/24/04 10:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I just want to thank everyone for their advice, me and a couple of friends had a great experience today. I didnt think it would be so much of a commitment though. We drank the tea at about one o'clock, and now I feel like Im pretty much done (10:00). We had about 3 pods each and it was just right, not too much, not too little. Thanks again everyone!


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Buddha5254]
    #3273084 - 10/24/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Glad to hear it. I'm not sure I will be doing this again any time soon, but I certainly had a great time as well.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3286934 - 10/27/04 11:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Haven't tried the pods, but I've tried just seeds.  If you go to an organic grocery store, they usually sell bulk poppy seeds.  As long as you make sure they are dull gray (which means they have the opiate powder on the outside) rather than black and shiny, you should be able to use a pound of seeds per person.  Just mix the seeds with water (comes out to be a LOT of seeds) and lemon juice, and gag it down.  The effects are nothing compared to opium, but I always get a really chill, mellow buzz :smirk:


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Kavatar]
    #3287039 - 10/27/04 11:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

A pound of seeds per person? dear god....

doesn't really sound worth it. From what I've read the seeds themselves aren't potent, but often have residue from the pods on them. If thats the case, with a pound you still might be able to get something.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3287289 - 10/28/04 12:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Heh, forgot to add the straining bit. Yes, please DON'T eat an entire pound of poppy seeds. I just strain the liquid through a tee-shirt or something of the like, several times. It is still a bit of a hassle, but it can be worth it.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Kavatar]
    #3287370 - 10/28/04 12:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Why consume the seeds when all you really need to do is a cold water wash? Opiates are water soluble and you don't need hot water like with pods to get the good stuff out of vegetable matter.

Put the seeds you need into a large jug, pour cold water over em and swish it around. About 10 minutes later they will be settled to the bottom so just pour off the liquid, add some lemon and drink deeply.

I usually take the cup with just the seeds after and put em on a radiator or in the sun to dry and then throw em around wherever there isn't too much vegetation.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: iamgod]
    #3287857 - 10/28/04 03:15 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i usually pour hot water over fine ground poppy dust and let steep under a cozy for 15 min to a half hour. ad honey and some lemon (the lemon before water and honey shortly after) then i drink it, if it tastes bad i add gatorade powder, it covers the taste well.

i then re steep the mush and drink a second cup to get the rest of the O. then i go out and smoke some weed and then have a cigar.


yes, thats how its done.  and then perhaps an hour later ill have more of the cigar. by this time im feeling quite relaxed, if i let go and unfocus my thoughts i drift away into a clearly blurred imaginarium of flowing experience
through new familiar living pictures.
sleep does not truly come, it sits boldy on the horizon exposing its wealth of secrets in the form of lucid dreams, i sit in a waking world, seeing the land of nod. and in this land i walk freely and wrapped in confidance, the world was made for me to explore, as thogh it was conceived of the future, as the future was conceived by logical conglomerate history, with wrinkles.
by now i begin to itch, but it doesn't matter, i can scratch with tamed distraction and wild abandon. and yawning, the key to fantasia, rushing the ooze of perceived endorphans, evry endopore on evry gland contracting in unison, a subtle, controllable orgasm.  and yet, am i even high?  i am totally in control of my mind, yet still amazed with the pictures it creates, im split between worlds, and gradually the land of nod fades into the vanishing point.  the subtle afterglow of still motion slips it away and a final trip to a cigar is in order, bedtime follows and the following day is chore like but still pleasently oozing in the shadows of my body. 

once i puked the following day, but that never happened again.  and it wasn't hard, it just sorta came up and then i was fine. no gut wrenching and no wasted product, just some pancakes almost a day later.

enjoying opium is almost a skill, once youve mastered it youre in for a surprise, that it has probably mastered you.
its a choice i reackon, i shall make none, my job is to shed light, not to master. :smile:


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #3288227 - 10/28/04 07:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thats beautiful Mitchnast. It feels great to smoke anything on opiates.


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Re: poppy tea experiences? [Re: iamgod]
    #3289060 - 10/28/04 02:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that's a bang up description of your trip. You aught to think about doing writing. You might make a lot at it.


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