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petew28
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psilocybin from mycelium
#3251633 - 10/19/04 01:09 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Want to know about getting psilocybin from mycelium without growing the mushrooms as growing is a serious problem for us. We have heard that you need to extract the psilocybin using a methanol extraction process. Again this is really difficult for us to acomplish. Does anyone know if it is possible to skip this stage and simply take the dried mycelium to achieve the same results. Has anyone tried this or does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
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growmore
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: petew28]
#3251671 - 10/19/04 01:18 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes you can do a extraction from the mycelium I have a book that tells you on how to do this in mass cuantity. Il have to look for it .Or you can go to amazon and look for it,it's called psilocyben mushroom or psilocyben extraction .Hope this helps,I will look for the book tho.
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Anno
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: petew28]
#3251742 - 10/19/04 01:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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>Sorry forgot to add this to the last posting - is the mycelium grown on agar supposed to be > pure white. Ours is more of a creamy browny beigey colour. Definitely no infection and it >is growing fine and is nice and ropey so just wondering if that is ok. Thanks for any help.
It is VERY white usually.
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notsloth
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: Anno]
#3251896 - 10/19/04 02:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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You might want to look into sclerotia too. There was a thread about "Philosophers Stones" pretty recently.
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woodzmun
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: notsloth]
#3251965 - 10/19/04 02:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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woodzmun
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: woodzmun]
#3251971 - 10/19/04 02:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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pizzle3k
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: woodzmun]
#3252666 - 10/19/04 05:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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the first link there seems extremely easy..i was wondering if anyone here has ever tried that TeK...and where would you find the acid crystal they talk about..they say it is Vitamin C, but where do you find 100% Vitamin C ???
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: pizzle3k]
#3252963 - 10/19/04 07:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why is growing out of the question? You know you can just fruit them in the jars sitting somewhere. Look up invitro growing..
Many people eat the BRF cakes when they're done fruiting and many make tea from mycelium covered substrate.
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: scatmanrav]
#3252970 - 10/19/04 07:13 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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brf without the verm I hope, at least for eating. Tea gets strained anyway so I suppose that doesnt matter.
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scatmanrav
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: beejay]
#3253065 - 10/19/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some people eat it with the verm. Some use whole rice (has to be PCed) which makes it just like rice cakes (almost). Most of the civil people who use PF cakes make tea I believe so they don't eat the verm.
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growmore
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: scatmanrav]
#3255889 - 10/20/04 11:57 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The second link woodzmun posted is from the book psilocybin production writen by Adam Gottlieb verey good book and very efective prossec,go for it,I own the book I should know.
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: growmore]
#3255903 - 10/20/04 12:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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methanol at room temperature is the best to use for the extraction. Ethanol works almost as good.
Also, acording to A. Shulgin, boiling water is pretty effective.
You can find this info at the cognitive library.
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: mycoguy]
#3255961 - 10/20/04 12:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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A few days ago, I wanted to trip really bad (been a couple of years), yet I only had about 30 wet grams. I'm not an impatient person, but I need to stop smoking buds (makes me lazy) and I scored a 1/4 of some incredible hydro/kind bud and wanted to trip and smoke. So, I cleaned up the fresh shrooms and made tea out of 2 cakes. I boiled water and then crumbled the cakes in and soaked them for a while (smashing and stirring frequently). I strained this through a piece of cloth -- squeezing it out. I then added about 20 packs of Splenda and a full pack of grape Kool-Aid. Added some ice and tasted pretty decent.
Anyway, that was 4 hours of intense tripping and about 2 hours of mild stuff. I'm not a big fan of using cakes for tea, but I certainly have no regrets about the other night -- fun, fun, fun!!!
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: petew28]
#3255967 - 10/20/04 12:17 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive consumed mycellium along with various substrates, despite that it is usually shunned upon, and i dont personally recommend it. jars that are pinning are more potent then freshly colonized jars, and spent cakes are more potent then both. but none can compete with fruitbodies.
extraction with methanol or ethanol is kinda useless unless your using dried and powdered fruitbodies, otherwise your just wasting your time.
for extracting from cakes we used to just use the cranberry juice tek, with crushed asorbic acid tabs, but not to many (taste gets a nasty tang if u put in too much). just dry the cakes to a crunchy crispy rock hard dry, then blend this up (coffee grinder works nide) i like to get it as powdery as possible. then i mix up the cranberry vitamin c mix with the cake powder, and filter with a metal coffee filter. people say boiling the brew before filtering it helps alot, i havent tried it so i wouldnt know.
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Re: psilocybin from mycelium [Re: amyloid]
#3258286 - 10/20/04 09:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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30 grams of wet shrooms wouldve been plenty..
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