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Invisiblederx
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patching
    #3251615 - 10/19/04 03:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How many people patch? I stray away from patching just because I dont want to make up an autoclavable bag full of 50/50+ , pasterize it and only use a few tablespoons of it. What do most of you guys do for the little casing material needed to patch your casings?


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Re: patching [Re: derx]
    #3251650 - 10/19/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

some times I patch and some times I dont. When I do patch I just microwave it,it seams to work good and no need to wast good casing material . Have had no problems yet .


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Re: patching [Re: growmore]
    #3252739 - 10/19/04 07:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I patch always to get nice even flushes. Sure it works otherwise, but unless you made the casing layer very even and it comes up like this:



then you wont get pinsets that come up like this (besides old granddad in the middle):



which turns into this:


Not everyone patches, and some who dont get good results. I like to patch though..


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Re: patching [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3252793 - 10/19/04 08:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Patching can really increase your yields in many cases. :wink: Listen to scatmanrav as he gives good advice. Besides all you do is makeup extra casing when you do your casings, no biggie at all! You do case right? :laugh:


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Re: patching [Re: hyphae]
    #3253024 - 10/19/04 09:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yeah I forgot about that..I PC all my casing mix in jars and do 9 quarts at a time (or 10 if I use the other PC, but seals not so good) basically because thats all my PC fits. Keep on the shelf and use as needed. Just use quart jars with no holes and flip the lid upsidedown. Only use clean spoons wiped down with alcohol and if you don't use some of the jar, throw the lid back on. It's non nutrious so it should stay sterile for a few days until you need to patch. Obviously if this is to much casing just use a little less but think about how much you'll need total and then add a little to it. Once sterilized it'll last as long as you keep it sealed up when your not using it.

Yeah all my advice on patching and even pinsets came from that guy Hyphae right there so he's a little biased to the advice :wink:


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: patching [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3254055 - 10/20/04 12:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Bullshit you suck rotten eggs scatman!!! I totally go by what I see Bro and your doing it! Your a contender without a doubt! :tongue:


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Re: patching [Re: hyphae]
    #3254460 - 10/20/04 02:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

As far as patching goes, I'm assuming you can just use ground up verm no matter what you cased with. Covering aggressive growth would make a minimal impact just because you use straight verm, right? Sorry.. .just looking for an alternative. I like fresh things. It give me the warm and fuzzy when I use fresh stuff.

Sam


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Re: patching [Re: Sam1912]
    #3254470 - 10/20/04 02:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I used 50/50+ (verm/peat)


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Re: patching [Re: derx]
    #3254502 - 10/20/04 02:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I use verm/coir and currently taking no shortcuts on my casings. But just a tought... Maybe something to experiment with in the future..

Sam


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Re: patching [Re: Sam1912]
    #3254658 - 10/20/04 03:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Verm is inferior to 50/50's why settle for less?


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Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

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Re: patching [Re: hyphae]
    #3254773 - 10/20/04 03:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

would it make a big difference just for patching?

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Re: patching [Re: Sam1912]
    #3254904 - 10/20/04 05:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think it would, I think it would mess with your pinset possibly. Not that it might not work ok but it still should be sterilized, it just seems easier to make a little extra casing mix. It stays nice and fresh sealed up in jars, they are canning jars after all :wink: I don't put it seal down though just for easy opening :smile: Still sealed purdy well.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: patching [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3255953 - 10/20/04 02:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing but the best for my babies and they show me much appreciation.
Does it matter? Ya to me. :wink:


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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