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Offlinenick_hopton
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mexicana truffle grow
    #3251103 - 10/19/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hi, this is my second attempt at growing shrooms and i thought hey why not grow alot of them. This is my plan to grow a couple of kilograms of mexicana strain a sclerotia, if you can find any flaws or any improvements please post, i really dont want to mess this one up. This is a list of all the supplies i have:

25KG rye grass seed

50 autoclavable filter patch bags

mexicana a strain spore syringe

60 cable ties

several jars

some malt extract

a glove box

lots of disinfectant

an alcohol lamp

and a surgical mask

My plan is to make a batch of liquid mycelium by pc'ing some jars filled with malt extract and water (i could use honey) and inoculating them with spores in my glove box in the bathroom with everything wiped down nice and sterile. Once the liquid mycelia has grown (any one know how long this will take), i will put in the spawn bags 1kg of grass seed and 1.5 litres of water (would it be better to use dilluted coffee?). Just before i pc the bags i will almost close the bags off using the cable ties but allow enough room for air to escape. Then pc the spawn bags for 2 hours (should i put the spawn bags inside a wet pillow case or something simmilar to stop them from melting?). Once the spawn bags are pc'd i will inoculate them with the liquid mycelia (any one know how much inoculant to use?), and incubate them at around 80 degrees. does any one know how long mexicana mycelia takes to colonize a bag and when can i expect sclerotia formation to occur? Anybody got an estimate as to how much sclerotia 25kg of grass seed will produce?

Your help is much apreciated



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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3251482 - 10/19/04 02:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

any suggestions?


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3252703 - 10/19/04 07:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd say about 40% of the weight..10kg. Good luck with the bags, I had more success with the jars.


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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3252730 - 10/19/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'd say stick with cubensis, sclerotia and mushrooms are very different,
fruiting sclerotia isnt an easy task


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3252995 - 10/19/04 09:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You dont think so? I just put them in a closet where they stay about 75 once colonized, in the dark but occasionally a little light and they start forming the stones...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3253077 - 10/19/04 09:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Growing Sclerotia is easy as hell. Fruiting the bastards (Mushrooms) is another story. Fortunately, sclerotia is bulky, edible and magic. Sclerotia is easier to produce than cubes. IT IS!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...f4449bb5510ab6e


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: Rose]
    #3253141 - 10/19/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yeah, FRUITing like that, but this guy says he just wants stones, not the mushrooms.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3253149 - 10/19/04 10:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I know... we're saying the same thing. I was replying to Prisoner who suggested cubes were easier.


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: Rose]
    #3253191 - 10/19/04 10:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ah all you green names look alike  :tongue2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :biggrin: :headbang: :wexican:


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3253199 - 10/19/04 10:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Aw come on!

Don't be Greenist.


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: Rose]
    #3253245 - 10/19/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Are you bluish? You don't look bluish...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3253985 - 10/20/04 12:36 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

She had to be a Drewish Princess!


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: Rose]
    #3255004 - 10/20/04 06:54 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i inoculated some honey water and some malt extract water 5 days ago with mexicana a spore syringe (couldnt see a thing in there other than water) and nothing has happened. is mexicana a a slow germinater?


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3255071 - 10/20/04 08:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's some weird shit.......


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: discman1]
    #3255092 - 10/20/04 08:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Possibly. It can definatly take over 5 days. Sometimes you just can't see it either. Make sure your shaking the jars or swishing them around to get them air in the water. If after another week you still see nothing then you should worry. I think they'll be fine though.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3255101 - 10/20/04 08:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the advice scatmanrav. when its grown how much liquid mycelia should i use to inoculate my spawn bags?


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Re: mexicana truffle grow [Re: nick_hopton]
    #3255212 - 10/20/04 09:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Holy cow!!

By late spring you're gonna be sitting on roughly 10,000 grams of fun.  Bet it's going to be one hell of a weekend for you and 2,000 of your closest friends!! :laugh:

Cant wait to see the updates on your progress.


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