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the man
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neuro
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>>SO do you get any effect if you smoke it?
Plain leaf, no. Extract (especially the rock candy looking stuff), smells nice and has a nicely mild effect from not much materials.
But as gumby said, it's not too good to just eat anything you don't know 100% what it is, If it was hemlock you'd better hope to get on a ventilator until the poison is metabolized then you'll be fine.
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GoaM
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Re: Kratom [Re: neuro]
#3352493 - 11/12/04 03:45 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey hey. Just got this today. MrKratom Premium. I put a level measured tablespoon in a cup with boiling water. Drank when cooled. Gritty and mildly bitter.
This is becoming nice. Kinda happy and mellow. Not flat like codeine. Mikey likes it! Mikey thinks it'll go nice with da chronic. I think I like my mu receptor sites being tweaked. 8-). Nice. I may take more in a bit.
Tweaker X
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The_Red_Crayon
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michotim002 said: whats it suppose to do, I feel nothing
Go troll otd this is serious discussion.
So gd you say Tea is the best way. I got about 12 grams of finely powdered kratom here. I cant wait to try it.
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GoaM
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Re: Kratom [Re: GoaM]
#3352890 - 11/12/04 05:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmmm. Seemed to have flattened out after an hour and a half. Feeling drowsey and heavy but not euphoric. So I drank another tablespoons worth. I feel the comeup now. We'll see how this goes.
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GoaM
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Re: Kratom [Re: GoaM]
#3353003 - 11/12/04 05:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just took a walk to the corner store for some peroxide and a 24 ouncer. The effects are PRONOUNCED. This is very good. Opiate-like indeed.
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mr_minds_eye
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Re: Kratom [Re: GoaM]
#3353612 - 11/12/04 09:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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That stuff is the shit. One time i tripped on some HBWR seeds. I made a strong as fuck extract with some top quality stuff from maya-ethnobotanicals. I took my last dose of kratom (takes the LSA edge off nicely) right before I came down entirely off of the seeds. Anyways I was at a Moonshine Still bar show on the nod. I mean this was a loud as fuck concert. I was in and out the whole night. I would have these bad ass CEVs and then pass out for a good 15 min. People must have thought that I spiked my mainline in the bathroom or something. Point being; enough kratom is strong as hell. -peace, I'm drunk bitches!
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KentuckyPWRLFTR
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I understand the price to quality relationship but am still a bit confused as to "Mr. Kratom". Any of you guys that have used his product, e.g. the "50 grams: $17.50" deal, what were your conclusions? I'd be interested to know rough dosages with that. From this thread I'm guessing 6-7 grams. There seems to be a notion that the various dosages fall into the categories: 2-3 grams; ~6 grams; 10-14 grams- depending on quality.
Read this, from my Papaver Somniferum forum. I am Thomas/Guest. http://www.lewed.net/papsomforum/viewtopic.php?t=135
Thanks in advance
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gdman
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3375203 - 11/17/04 04:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh man, the more I drink it, the more it makes me gag, there was got to be a better way, I might try to make caps of powder... anyone try this?
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gdman
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crayon: when you get it, I use two of those plastic disposable spoons worth of powder.
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DadeMurphy
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3376569 - 11/17/04 09:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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hahaha I got to that point too...drinking the sludge is just tooo foul.
There was a post somewhere (maybe in ODD) about someone doing caps and did not find it effective. I tried the tea without leaving in the plant matter, it didn't work very well at all...Maybe there is a better way, or maybe I need to make the tea better.
I hope someone figures this out.
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GoaM
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DadeMurphy said: hahaha I got to that point too...drinking the sludge is just tooo foul.
ROTFLMAO. No fucking shit. At first it wasn't bad...now.... gaaak. It's nasty gritty shit. I tried capsules. I find one or two 00 capsules of MrKratom powder to be very speedy. Edgy too. The foulness of the powder tea dreck is making it difficult to abuse this one as much as I'd like. I enjoy that overflow to the mu receptors thing.
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mjshroomer
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Re: Kratom [Re: neuro]
#3378085 - 11/18/04 06:52 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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It works best with fresh leaves. I recently posted somewhenre here picture sof the leaves and treee. There have been many instances of people selling phony extracts.
First off real leaves have a tea taste to them. A spoonful of sugar does help the medicine go down. First noticible negative effects from drinking and chewing is constipation. I here little of anyone who soes some of these extracts as having constipation.
Real Thom will have the effect of stimuliation of coca and then euphoric effects of opiates. In Thailand it is used b for stamia for long w2orking hours. However, within ina year of steady use, users require twnety to thrity leaves aday. I chewed leaves this summer. made me talk my head off more than I already do and aftter several days I was constipated form chewing two and three leaves a day for about a week before i stopped.
\In Malaysia it is used as a substiture for methadone in heroin withdrawel clinics because it is less addicting than opeiates. In Thailand you can actually get a lo9nger prison term for Kratom than for opium.
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Military and police alike cut down Kratom tees everyday somewhere int he country.
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gdman
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yep, I have umm suffered what you said, kratom going around (at least with certain vendors) seems pretty real... it's more the consisatancy of powdered leaves pluse water that makes it quite difficul to get down without gagging.
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DadeMurphy
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Yeah the kratom that is going around is def. real. It's active and I def. had the constipation side effects. Like Gd says, it's going as finely powdered dry leaf... Mostly it's made into tea, but if you take the sludge (powdered leaves+water) out then the tea is weak, and if you leave it in, it's totally gag worthy. Maybe a better water extraction can be developed, or an easy route to semi-pure alkaloids? Maybe we should start a whole new thread dedicated to improving kratom ingestion methods. I should have a kilo of dried mr.kratom stuff to mess with this weekend. So I can try diff methods.
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gnrm23
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Re: iboga extraction process relevant? [Re: DadeMurphy]
#3383342 - 11/19/04 08:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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AhronZombi
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3444614 - 12/04/04 03:38 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
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ive found the best way to avoid a gag, is get or make a nice thick gewy extract by boiling. then roll it up in a ball once its kooled. take the ball and roll it in flower. then eat the flower ball. all you taste is flower. and it hits you good and hard. this is the way people have been eating this stuff for years and it works great
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AhronZombi
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hey mrkratom has good shit. in the past ive used iamshaman, but gave this guy a chance since ive heard good. im high right now. very close to heroin
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DadeMurphy
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Yes he does...
So, I tried a lower dose of an extract today...about the equiv. of 2.5 - 3g...it was very interesting how the effects changed.
Definately more like a stimulant than an opiate...still similar "pleasant" feeling...but none of the heaviness or lethargy of higher doses, instead a real alertness. It actually helped me (a little) to do my crappy service industry job. I see why field workers in asia use this stuff. What an awesome and versatile plant!
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esin
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Indeed. Very addictive psychologically, though. I found myself drinking the stuff almost every night before my stash ran out.
Now i decided i can't afford such an expensive habit, so i'll only order it for special occasions. Next spring i will get me a mitragyna speciosa plant though 
BTW, did you people feel it's much more active if you're alone? I've taken up to 10g out with friends and didn't feel that much altered but when i ate that amount alone i got sooo messed up...
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