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Thats weird. All of my friends reported total effects lasting for over 24 hours. We had 6-8g of leaf a piece that time. With 2g or so it would last 4 hours max but the more plant material usually made for a longer experience.
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3257560 - 10/20/04 06:05 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah, I usally just make a tea. next time buy the already powdered kind though, it's a lot easier that way. i just make a tea and keep it on low or medium anywhere from 15 mins to a half hour. sometimes i do it twice or thrice to ensure that i get the most out of it. but it isn't necessary to do that much.
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i think it feels more like it switches over to more opiated in higher doses, cus you can even nod off if you dose pretty high. or maybe it's just more dominant so you dont really notice the stimulant effects as much.
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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
#3257607 - 10/20/04 06:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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once it has saturated the 'stimulating' receptors, it seems to move to the mu pleasure receptors
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Re: Kratom [Re: Organic]
#3257632 - 10/20/04 06:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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right but, like locus tried to answer, does the stimulant effect persist underneath/simultaneous to that "mu receptor" effect, or is it overpowered by the "mu" effect?
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its there, but the sedated feeling is definetly overpowering in a "what will make me feel better, sitting here or doing something" sort of way... hmm does that make sense?
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3257703 - 10/20/04 06:32 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm probably gonna buy an ounce of the Dried Kratom Leaf and some Powdered Kanna. Let me know how the Kanna goes and if it's worth the money. How do you guys usually take Kanna (snuffing, smoking, orally)? I think I might just smoke it, but I am not sure how much I should smoke to reach effects. How many doses for a 1st time user of Kratom last me out of an ounce of the dried leaf?
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I think it might be the best to chew it, but neevr tried it so...
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kanna has never worked for me, don't know why. other people seem to like it though.
an ounce of leaf will last i dunno.. 4-7 times if you're not tolerant each time. i mean that all depends though. just buy it and see. small doses vs large ones will make the difference. and if you're an avid and frequent user your tolerance will go right up and you'll be using a lot more than you began with.
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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
#3257746 - 10/20/04 06:44 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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how long does the tolerance last? I heard it builds fast but it subsides fast too.
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3257766 - 10/20/04 06:49 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh yeah, it is like that. it doesn't last very long. give it a few days, or a week or so and itd go way down.
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Re: Kratom [Re: Organic]
#3257797 - 10/20/04 06:55 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, makes sense to me. Thanks Man.
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I'm going to be ordering this stuff, but for my friend (and I). It's going to be shipped to his house, but he's not 18 yet. If he signed as stating he's 18 years of age is it really going to matter or not? How would they know?
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if your friend is not 18, you are supposed to be.. so why not ship it to you? and they will check. they always do.
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Re: Kratom [Re: Locus]
#3260267 - 10/21/04 11:44 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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^^ How are "they" going to check?
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oh depends. everything depends. where will they buy it? how will they pay?
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I would not order to your parents house if your under 18? wouldn't they wonder what's in the package? if they found it that could be bad for you and bad for the vendor, there is a reason why they don't sell to people under 18.
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Re: Kratom [Re: gdman]
#3261612 - 10/21/04 06:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I was just wondering how they would actually know if your 18 or not.
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Probably not. When I was underage and had access to a check card I ordered quite a bit of stuff I shouldn't have. Never ran into any problems.
But... think of all the trouble you and the vender could get into if your friends parents opened it up.
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mushiemountain
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Well the reason I am sending to his house is because I still live with my parents and don't want them opening the package. My friend's parents are always at work so they will not recieve the package therefore it wil be going to his house. Hope to enjoy this Kratom and Kanna...and Salvia (is the non-standard 6x extract good?).
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