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Offlineqwon
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potency lost in the drying process??
    #3250576 - 10/13/04 03:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Number 2 for the evening:

I like to dry them in a brown paper bag sitting in between the burners on my stove. The burners are off, and directly below the bag on the stove top is where the pilot light is...thus it isn't too hot especially if the bag isn't touching the metal stove top. It heats the bag up nicely. Often I will even leave them in a brown paper bag that has holes in it for a few days until they are crisp.

IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH MY PROCESSSS?
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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: qwon]
    #3250612 - 10/13/04 03:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what if there is a spike in the gas pressure line and then.. poof! Fire!!! Fire!!!

Lost of chemicals come from mainly oxidation of the chemicals. And there is a small amount of that going on in fresh mushrooms. I'd think keeping it in a non-ventilated and warm compartment would only accelerate this process. Since it's not well ventilated, time it takes to dry them would also be much higher. Ventilation is more effective IMHO than low heat.

Have you ever hung wet laundry outside in the winter's freezing temperatures? Clothes still dry because moisture is still picked up by the bone dry air at freezing temperatures fairly well, even if the clothes freeze a bit.

I say, just spend 5 bucks and get some damp-rid. Faster, easier, no risk of fire, no risk of losing potency, reusable, concealable, etc...

Just my 2 cents

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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3250670 - 10/13/04 03:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

^^^ some the heat will cut down the potency


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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: aussieone]
    #3250675 - 10/13/04 03:53 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:
damp rid it is then
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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: qwon]
    #3250711 - 10/13/04 04:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

you can dry them out with a fan blowing directly on them, it will take about 3-4 days thou


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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: aussieone]
    #3250720 - 10/13/04 04:06 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

In the long run, it'd be cheaper to pay for gas(for recharing) than it would be to pay electricity. I bet it pays for itself within first 6 months.

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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3250741 - 10/13/04 04:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

a little fan doesnt cost that much to run does it ??


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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: aussieone]
    #3250753 - 10/13/04 04:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer silica gel over damprid. It's easier to work with, recharge, etc.


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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: pshawny]
    #3250795 - 10/13/04 04:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

fans use a lot of electricity. If you run for 3 days per flush, 5 flushes a month, that'll add up quick. probably couple of dollars a month. 6 month.. that'd be $12. That's damp rid and all the gas you use for drying them for few years.

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Re: potency lost in the drying process?? [Re: Sam1912]
    #3250861 - 10/13/04 05:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Damp rid can only be reused a few times though..then you need to buy more. And if your talking drying the same amount (though 5 flushes per month isn't gonna happen :smile: ) then your gonna be running through damp rid fast (even recharging it). Damp rid isn't very effective if the shrooms aren't fan dried first and if used alone will most likly need to be changed in the middle of drying each flush. Generally the best way to go about it is to fan dry for 24 hours then desiccant for another 24. This will get them cracker dry and not have you running through tons of desiccant a month.

That said, mild heat below 125 shouldn't be a problem drying your mushies. I would cut holes in the bag though, as Sam said, you'd want ventilation. The water has to go somewhere. I might also put a fan blowing over the bag..it should force the damp air in the bag out. You could also throw some paper towels or newspaper at the bottom of the bag to help with the process. Using heat you do get some potency loss but drying period your get some potency loss. There is much question if the loss is much different using mild heat or not. Either way, I nor anyone I know can tell the difference between shrooms on my dehydrator or ones dried using a fan/desiccant method.


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