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Black Caps poison?
    #3243474 - 10/11/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I am have not, and still do not notice any contamination on any of my projects but in one compartment I notice there are multiple mushrooms with what look to be blackish/discolored caps. The rest of the fruitbody looks fine though so I was wondering what this could be.. and if I need to throw them all away.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243483 - 10/11/04 04:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It could be spores.  Sometimes the entire cap of a mushroom will turn black and be covered by spores.  Do you have a way to get a picture?

Edit: Caps covered with spores aren't poisonous, but post a picture first if you can so you don't die. :smile:

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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243488 - 10/11/04 04:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes it sounds like they may be covered in spores
When I have alot of shrooms in a tight space and they open caps. I almost always get caps covered in spores. They look almost black


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: Silven]
    #3243489 - 10/11/04 04:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

or it could be an abort if is a cube is it small


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: Silven]
    #3243494 - 10/11/04 04:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well the only thing about that is that none of the surrounding caps have
opened. So I don't think theyre spores. Also not aborts because one of the fruits is well over 6 inches and continuing but it has a blackish cap too.


Edited by themills (10/11/04 04:35 PM)


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243510 - 10/11/04 04:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

mine did the same thing i think it was the light. i picked them anyways.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: Whippersnapper]
    #3243522 - 10/11/04 04:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Mine get almost no light at all, at least not nearly enough to cause a discoloration.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: Whippersnapper]
    #3243531 - 10/11/04 04:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think some strains have darkening caps. Maybe yours is one of them.

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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243535 - 10/11/04 04:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

A picture says a thousand words man. Could be a number of things but with only words to show us I don't think your gonna be able to get a definitive answer.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243538 - 10/11/04 04:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

>well the only thing about that is that none of the surrounding caps have
opened.

The spores float from the gills to the top of the same cap.

Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23420


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243545 - 10/11/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Could be bruising you could of touched it and not have noticed it or it could have touched something else. Its happend to me before a couple of times there probably ok to eat though i cant say that for sure. If you had a pic that would really help.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3243547 - 10/11/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry if I had a digital Camera I would, or if my webcam wasn't broke. I know a picture is worth a thousand words I just needed to at least verbally try and explain what was happening so I could make a desicion to throw them away or not... still not sure.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: Anno]
    #3243549 - 10/11/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've definatly had spores on the tallest mushrooms in the casing. Thats good pics of it too. Looks pretty IMO.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3243555 - 10/11/04 04:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

What I should have said was... none of the veils are even broken.


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243596 - 10/11/04 04:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

that's awesome so it means that i picked a good cap to make a print. :smile:


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: Whippersnapper]
    #3243612 - 10/11/04 04:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well what color should the inside of a fresh healthy fruit be? (Inside of the stalk material)


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3243644 - 10/11/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

purple/bluish with a white center. use your nose too. if it smells like a mushroom then you should be all good! correct me if im wrong.


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    #3244002 - 10/11/04 06:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: seatrip]
    #3244055 - 10/11/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I guess I will pick the ones then that are turning blackish, They sur don't seem like aborts since theyre growing exactly at the rate or normal mushrooms cept turning blackish caps. And I was under the impression that contamed myc would produce nasty lookin fruits....


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Re: Black Caps poison? [Re: themills]
    #3244417 - 10/11/04 08:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If the "blackness" is caused by spores, then you should be able to scrape some of it off and reveal the normal shroom colours underneath (I find this to be true with wet & dry shrooms).

If you can't scrape it off then IMO it's not likely to be caused by spores.


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