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OfflineTripster
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My first run at this
    #3238901 - 10/10/04 01:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Tell me if I'm being inpatient or not. I inoculated 4 jars last Monday with the B+ strain from a spore syringe. I used atleast a cc in each jar. It's Sunday now and I still see nothing. The directions I had were from Erowid and said I should see spots at the inoculation site after 5 days. Can anyone tell me if the B+ strain is known for taking a bit to get going or am I just being inpatient? Or is Erowid's directions a little off? Thanks.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Tripster]
    #3238913 - 10/10/04 01:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

B+ is a slow colonizer but germination should start at regular times.

How's your water content? Incubation temperature?


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Tripster]
    #3238928 - 10/10/04 01:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What Tek did you use?


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Tripster]
    #3238935 - 10/10/04 01:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

More importantly, where did you get your syringes?

Were they dark or clear?


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Re: My first run at this [Re: MAGnum]
    #3238945 - 10/10/04 01:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Dark or clear syringes makes little difference.

I have used both with good results.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: niteowl]
    #3238963 - 10/10/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

So I have heard, but a nice dark syringe is just better compaired to an improperly made clear syringe.

I still think that it all depends on the source or the syringe before anything.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: MAGnum]
    #3238979 - 10/10/04 01:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MAGnum said:
So I have heard, but a nice dark syringe is just better compaired to an improperly made clear syringe.





just as a dark syringe that is made improperly will yeild you lots of problems


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Re: My first run at this [Re: MAGnum]
    #3239028 - 10/10/04 02:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Water content is most often the problem. He'd probably mention if he made the syringe himself or something.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Ayrios]
    #3239095 - 10/10/04 02:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How much water should you put in the jars before pressure cooking them? Should you be able to see water in the jars?


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Frappy]
    #3239105 - 10/10/04 02:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know if you used PF tek or a grain or what. Basically, if it's PF tek, you should be able to tell the substrate is wet but you don't want to see water at the bottom of the jar after PC'ing. I know most PF teks say 'mix in water til you see a little free water at the bottom of the bowl' but, IME, you want a little less. Just saturation, no stray water. If it's a grain, you want your water inside the grains and don't want to see the water against the grains hitting the side of the jar. Kind of hard to explain.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Ayrios]
    #3239176 - 10/10/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_mmgg.shtml

I followed the directions in the link above to the tee. Take a look if you have the chance.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Tripster]
    #3239182 - 10/10/04 03:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Alright but there have been some questions posed here:

Incubation temperature?

Origin of syringes?

Water content of jars? How's it look?


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Ayrios]
    #3239187 - 10/10/04 03:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Ayrios said:
B+ is a slow colonizer but germination should start at regular times.

How's your water content? Incubation temperature?


I can visibly see that it's wet and I don't see any standing water on the bottom. I have it in a cuboard with no light (other than when I look at it) at room temp.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: MAGnum]
    #3239199 - 10/10/04 03:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MAGnum said:
More importantly, where did you get your syringes?

Were they dark or clear?


I got it from an ebay online company. I can't recall the name. This is the one thing that's making me worry. It was crystal clear.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Tripster]
    #3239218 - 10/10/04 03:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Crystal clear can be great (as long as you can see a tiny bit of spores if you look closely, to prove they are there) but eBay is NOT. eBay spores have a horrible reputation I'm afraid.

Order another B+ from www.tlgexpress.com


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Ayrios]
    #3239224 - 10/10/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Alright but there have been some questions posed here:

Incubation temperature?

Origin of syringes?

Water content of jars? How's it look?






I'm getting there.  :tongue: Have I covered everything now.


Edited by Tripster (10/10/04 03:36 PM)


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Ayrios]
    #3239231 - 10/10/04 03:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's what I was worrying. When I ordered I figured they are so easy to make, once you have the knowledge of how, that it would be rare to get a bunk syringe. Leason learned I guess. Thanks for the site address. I'll order one asap. Is there another strain you suggest yourself? I was looking through some from this sites sponsors and liked the write up on the Cambodian strain. What do you think?


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Tripster]
    #3239251 - 10/10/04 03:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I don't have experience with Cambodian yet but it sounds great. I can recommend Ecuador and B+. TLG has 4-packs with 4 separate strains, 12cc of each for $36. I'll be ordering one of those after a while. The #2 sounds great.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: Ayrios]
    #3239273 - 10/10/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The water content of jars is real iffy. I followed 2 teks on my first syringe and got nothing. I quickly realized that I had too much water when I could see the brown rice flour had slide marks down the sides of my jars. Too much flour will give you BIG CHUNKS of substrate, wich is also not good. The best way to describe your mix (that i can think of) is having each individual piece of vermiculite covered with brf and still being seperated from other pieces of verm(or close to that, compare your mix to pictures of other peoples jars that are colonizing, so you can see their substrate). However, the flour should not appear white after mixing. And there should not be much left over in your mixing bowl.


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Re: My first run at this [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3239294 - 10/10/04 04:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Alright. I placed an order for the 4 strain mix. 1 Ecuador, 1 Cambodian, 1 Amazonian, and 1 Thai Pink Buffalo. I'll try to make sure my next jars are VERY thouroughly mixed. I think the substrate I made this time was ok, I just got screwed on my syringe. Thanks again. You've got a good community going here and I'm glad I joined up.


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